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64" printer upgrade

Discussion in 'Digital Printing' started by Kurse, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Kurse

    Kurse New Member

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    Hi All,

    For the past 3 years we have a Roland XR-640 and it has been very good to us.
    In this competitive market we are always looking for ways to be ahead of our competition.
    And now we are looking for a new printer as it seems like everybody around us has also a Roland.
    We print about almost anything from little sticker to full bus wraps.

    My question, is there any new printer that can replace our roland and give us an advantage over our competition?


    Thank you
     
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  2. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    Yes, an HP Latex. You can do some really cool and unique materials that you cannot do with other machines like the Roland. You will be able to produce your graphics faster than your competition, a whole day faster in some applications!

    With the HP Latex you can do natural fiber fabrics like cottons and linens also. (Check out DuraVibe Fabrics)
     
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  3. flyplainsdrifta

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    Yeah for speed id say hp latex, for gamut id go with a newer epson. the colors and clarity ive seen on those is bananas. Latex is great though as bigfish said everything has its place imo.
     
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  4. MachServTech

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    I second this exactly. Latex for versatility and Epson for Gamut and Resolution.
     
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  5. Kurse

    Kurse New Member

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    Thank You Bigfish

    In my research I found the latex has many benefits.
    But they seem to need high temperatures to work and it will cause problems in some types of vinyl.
    Don't know how much could this be a problem to us.
     
  6. Kurse

    Kurse New Member

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    I really like the Epson reviews.
    Good quality with good colors. It would give an advantage over Rolands. But it seem the ink is easily scratched.
    And we don´t want to laminate all our jobs as it will increase prices.

    But still it looks like a really good printer.



    We were also looking at the Mimaki UCJV series. But around here Mimaki have a bad reputation for whatever reason.
     
  7. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    You will not have any problems running anything in your latex machine. Whatever you think you will have an issue with let me know. I have nothing to gain out of this at all financially. The old models gave off a lot of heat and had issues with a very select few materials, that is all in the past and with their current lineup you will not have any problems running the biggest brands out there.
     
  8. Superior_Adam

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    I love our HP Latex560. We run 8 mil paper through it no problem, so any material will be fine.
     
  9. Carlos Valencia

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    Hi, go with Hp Latex. They're the best.
     
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  10. printguyjohn

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    I wish my rep would of told me about Magnetic material though. HP Latex 560/570 and magnetic materials are basically a non-starter. At least for a production shop doing hundreds per month....
     
  11. Tattoosleeve

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    We bought an Epson S60600 to replace two Epson S30's. The speed is ridiculous. Even on our S30's we often printed and laminated same day without any failures. The new Ultrachrome inks are claiming a 6hr dry time so you can print in the morning and laminate in the afternoon so there is no reason to be concerned about dry time at all. Scratch resistance may be a factor if you do unlaminated a lot like you say. We laminate every single job in our shop so the latex doesn't have that much draw power for me.
     
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  12. Bly

    Bly Very Active Member

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    If you can only have one printer, an HP latex.
    If you can, get an Epson too.
     
  13. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    Who's magnetic have you tried so far?
     
  14. Kurse

    Kurse New Member

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    Thank You very much for you recommendations.
    I will check out the HP latex to see if it gives us an advantage over our current machine.
    I am not sure if the quality is as good as our roland.
     
  15. BigfishDM

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    Have you found one yet that works good in latex? I might have a solution for ya.
     
  16. Ldireprophil

    Ldireprophil New Member

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    I bought HP Latex 365 about 1 1/2 years ago. Couldn’t live without it now, great machine not a single issue out of it. It just lightly spits the ink, they last forever and we do full color bleeds on almost everything we do. My Scitex FB550 comes in next week, can’t wait for that!
     
  17. 2B

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    also, agree with this.

    NOTE
    Do make sure that you have the means of powering an HP.
    It is NOT a simple plug into a standard outlet like your Roland is. it will require electrical work / new wiring
     
  18. Ldireprophil

    Ldireprophil New Member

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    (2) 240 outlets, one for the printer, one for the curing unit.
     
  19. MikePro

    MikePro Major Contributor

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    Latex is AMAZING! I "gulp'd" too in my switch from solvent, but haven't been happier since. Difference in ink formula won't give you much aside from a "greener" approach to production, but If you're looking for a competitive advantage, then why not look-into added versatility such as the HP R1000 hybrid.... would allow you to print on vinyls AND direct-print onto substrates, with WHITE ink as well, while carrying little additional "footprint" in your shop.
     
  20. printguyjohn

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    I have not and am desperate to do so. I've purchased from Magnum and another company I can't remember. The funny thing is, I was literally thinking about this yesterday. I will soon purchase an Epson CMYK+W but would love to print magnetic signs on my Latex. I've scheduled a full day of "attempts" this coming Tuesday with my staff.

    The company who sold us this machine (HP Latex 570) had a tech who told us they spent hours on a job and was able to get the profile to work with Magnum Magnetics DigiMag (Standard Energy unlike High Energy Muscle Mag) and even shared the profile (wihch was corrupt)

    If you have something you are SURE we can print then I'd love to get some. Shoot me a DM if you'd like.
     
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