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Aggressive Adhesive

Discussion in 'Vinyl' started by Escritar, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. Escritar

    Escritar New Member

    Mar 24, 2011
    Northern California
    I have a good client who buys "lawn signs" (vinyl letters on corrugated plastic) to augment his other advertising. However, he has had a problem with theft of of his signs and asked what deterrents could be used.

    I suggested using cutting the company name/logo from vinyl with a very aggressive adhesive, cutting a stencil and painting the comapany name/logo on the back of the sign. Removing the signs at the end of the day and putting them back up early the next day, etc.

    I'd like to hear what some of you have experienced as a successful deterrent or preventative actions that have worked.

    What is the vinyl with the most aggressive adhesive available?

    I've had varying successes with painting on corrugated plastic, what type paint works best?
  2. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    i would steal em and sell em back to him))))
  3. GAC05

    GAC05 Major Contributor

    Dec 27, 2005
    Guam USA
    Old Paint - always pushing for zero carbon footprint recycling solutions....

    wayne k
    guam usa
  4. visual800

    visual800 Very Active Member

    Aug 4, 2010
    montgomery, alabama
    Im trying to follow this post but I dont understand what the hell Im reading, cutting logo? making stencil?...WHAT!!>??
  5. DizzyMarkus

    DizzyMarkus Active Member

    Jan 23, 2012
    I guess I don't understand myself here. So you are saying folks are stealing them -- what difference would it make if they are painted or vinyl , less appealing so they wont steal em?

  6. jfiscus

    jfiscus Adobe Shinobi

    Apr 2, 2009
    Cincinnati, OH
    No one is stealing them to reuse them... People are taking them because they do not like the looks of them in their neighbors yard and the local "sign police" (KY DOT around here) are collecting them, as they are a "nuisance" sign.

    I've only VERY rarely seen one or two stolen by people for re-use as yard sale signs & then people have just spray painted over them or taped paper over them, so the vinyl of choice didn't matter.
  7. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

    Jun 4, 2007
    Home Office
    Put up the signs and install a digital game cam or two. Send pix to the local PD. Done. The new game/hunting cameras have very nice resolution.
  8. Escritar

    Escritar New Member

    Mar 24, 2011
    Northern California
    I apologize for the hastily posted message and the lack of clarity.

    My customer’s signs are being stolen (they are located in front of his business on his property) once or twice a month. He has cameras on the site and has “trained them on the signs” but the camera’s are not close enough to get a clear view. His buildings are a considerable distance from the road (200’), he has even mounted a camera specifically to watch the signs. The area is "wide open" and therefore the camera is mounted high on a metal pole and easily identifieable by the thieves. It hasn't dterrred them, they now wear dark clothes, hooded sweatshirts, sunglasses and caps to hide their faces. He now can see them, just can't identify them.

    The police patrol his area regularly, but that is probably the least effective deterrent. The owner has watched the property "all night" several times but the only results has been the owner being tired the next day.

    The owner has an annual “city permit” for temporary signs and has checked with the county and state regarding if they are removing the signs. Those government agencies have both stated they have no jurisdiction and thus no reason to remove the signs.

    All the local sign shops have been contacted and they also have customers who are having the same problem. However, none of them have had anyone walk into their shop to sell them corrugated plastic panels or to have plastic panels re-lettered.

    The reason for the question regarding using a vinyl with an aggressive/permanent adhesive or using stencil/paint was to determine the best method to “permanently marking” the rear of his signs with his company name/logo and if that would either deter the thieves or allow the panels to be recognized if anyone attempts to “re-use” the plastic panels.

    Thank You
  9. StarSign

    StarSign Active Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Southern Utah
    Marking them on the back won't stop a thief, they are already marked on the front right? If they are just corrugated signs on wire stakes why doesn't he just bring the signs in. I am assuming they aren't being read much at night anyway.
  10. john1

    john1 Guest

    Just get them screen printed, No worries of letters being peeled off easily and plus who wants to do yard signs in cut vinyl?

    Have him take the signs down in that area before he leaves at night, No biggie.
  11. jfiscus

    jfiscus Adobe Shinobi

    Apr 2, 2009
    Cincinnati, OH
    Late night, covert sign theft? Sounds like his competition is pissed he's taking their business. I don't think there's a "coroplast ring" taking those $.50 blanks & spending hours removing lettering & adhesive. I would just take a sharpie & put "property of xyz" on the back.

    Print a picture from the surveillance footage of the thieves taking the signs & make another sign that says "Do you know this Thief? Wanted by the local police dept" on it & put it by the other signs.
  12. d fleming

    d fleming Very Active Member

    Nov 28, 2007
    Middleburg, Florida
    Tiger pit and pungee sticks dipped in excrement.
  13. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

    Nov 11, 2008
    cheap coroplast signs, not worth the effort to come up with some clever system. On the plus side, they are cheap enough to replace a few every month without much of an impact on the owners wallet.
  14. anotherdog

    anotherdog Very Active Member

    Sep 6, 2008
    When I was a kid I once tried to climb over a wall that belonged to a golf club (just the stuff kids do). Anyway the club, sick of kids messing around on the property had painted the tops and backs of everything with a special paint that never dries.

    I went home covered in this crap and after my a ss had a learning experience, never went near the place again.

    Google it, it's called anti-climb paint. paint the back of the coro sign and it's untouchable.
  15. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    Sep 24, 2004
    wipe a bunch of poo all over the backs of the signs
  16. anotherdog

    anotherdog Very Active Member

    Sep 6, 2008
    :goodpost:the cheapest solution wins!
    "a bunch o poo" I trademark this product!
  17. MikeD

    MikeD Active Member

    Oct 25, 2011
    the customer is obviously concerned, and therefore be willing to make a more permanent sign that is cemented/welded in place. Sounds like the signs should be in a puddle of water and electrified to help teach the thief that stealing is wrong.

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