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Bus wrap problems...

Discussion in 'Vehicle Wraps' started by 401Graphics, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    So I'm going to be using busmark type material to do a temporary wrap on this bus. One problem i think i'm going to have is that these rails on the sides are gonna screw me up when it comes to aligning panels. Should i just lay the vinyl over them instead of working the vinyl around the rail? the problem is i cannot heat conform it around the rail. Well i could, but it definitely wont stay because its calendared vinyl. So do i just let it a make a huge tent over it or what? also there is paint chipping all over the bottom of the bus and around the rails.

    Does anybody have a waiver form i can use to have the customer sign letting them know that the wrap is gonna fail in many places, and they agree to deal with it, and i will not be at fault?
     

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  2. NHuckaby

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    i always try to sell something different and if they dont wanna do anything different. i wont do the job at all cause its going to be nothing but a headache. but i would just type you up a form and have the customer sign it saying your work cannot be guarnteed and any problems that happen wants it leaves your place is not your fault.
     
  3. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    Anybody got ideas how to make this issue work with those rub rails?
    I just emailed the customer and let him know there will be adhesion failure in chipped paint areas. and asked if i could remove the rails. (which means i have to go out and but rivets since the bus body panels are seamed in those spots also)
     
  4. GAC05

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    I think I'd just panel right over them - split down the middle of the rail and then trim it back to the upper and lower edge of those extrusions.

    Just be careful to not scratch the paint.........

    wayne k
    guam usa
     
  5. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    I thought about doing this also. but worried that it will in a area where there is text. Also some of the rails have white paint on them and some have red. They will stick out like crazy and kill the design. Anyways i just talked to teh customer and he pretty much said do whatever i need to do to the bus to make the wrap turn out better. So ill be removing the rails, scraping chipping paint, and spray painting. this should be fun. But i know i wont be flipping out trying to deal with the rails now.
     
  6. xanderortiz

    xanderortiz New Member

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    How about you offer to repaint the rough spots and charge them for it. :) Just an idea...
     
  7. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    I dont think they are gonna pay me anymore money. My wrap quote went from like $7000 to $4700. which is why im using the cheaper "busmark" material. This is only going to be used for 3 months (its a political campaign bus). Then they will probably sell it or blow it up.
     
  8. Coloradosigns

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    sweet baby jesus. I would be sure to tell them you're not responsible if it fails in a few days. I'd sand it down to the aluminum and slap on another 300.
     
  9. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    Took you long enough to respond on this thread! lol
     
  10. Coloradosigns

    Coloradosigns Major Contributor

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    I wouldn't wrap around the bottom of the bar either, i'd cut it off in the groove.

    All this is for the good of longevity, make the customer understand
     
  11. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    Customer is letting me remove them now so that problem is solved. Thank god!
     
  12. Coloradosigns

    Coloradosigns Major Contributor

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    Gotta love those customers who understand. Feel free to give me a shout if you have a question. # is on our site.

    -Adam
     
  13. Jeff S

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    As far as the adhesion, I would be sure to use 3M Primer 94 around all edges. If you have to make relief cuts, make sure to primer those areas before you start wrapping. Make sure that any place that you stretch and push film into is post heated to 200F and re-squeegee every seam and edge really well.

    Make sure that you remove any chipping paint and advise the customer that you are not responsible if the wrap fails.

    I have a waiver of sorts that may be of use to you. Email me if you would like a copy of it.

    Jeff
     
  14. WCSign

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    the elections in like 80 days.. tell em the facts, they wont care.. itll still look good on the road and on TV
     
  15. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    Thanks for the waiver Jeff! :U Rock:
     
  16. Coloradosigns

    Coloradosigns Major Contributor

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    except, you don't want to use primer on a short term wrap.

    I remember you saying it was short term
     
  17. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    whats wrong with using primer on short term?
     
  18. Coloradosigns

    Coloradosigns Major Contributor

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    it makes it not so short term?
     
  19. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    huh?
    if it has to do with the color, then im not worried. Im using whatever color i got laying around. Unless primer is a better choice than paint
     
  20. carter75

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    I am sure primer 94 is not recommended for Busmark. It is only for the 3M wrap vinyl I believe. We use primarily use Oracal and they sternly advise you not to use any primer.

    On another note, if it does work on Busmark, and you won't be the person doing the removal of the wrap after the election, use it! It will help the wrap maintain its integrity and you won't be dealing with the headache!
     
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