I don't know

...Fired

 

No deposit/no design.
Deposit/lots of changes/charge more.
Maybe a faux superhero with their name on his chest?
Love....Jill

 

sounds like they are looking more for an ad campaign or marketing image then a design for a truck. can you do this? if so, charge them for this kind of work as it goes beyond just making a truck look nice.

 

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-ph...brating-by-jumping-in-new-york.php?st=56b48e8

 

Tell them, they need to get serious.

If they want to pursue this path, you need an up-front retainer of $800.00 to work on their project..... and their project alone. They can trust you will eventually come up with what they want, but since they are being sketchy, it might take some time. The first $800 represents 6 hours of your time regardless of how they use it, be it phone calls, visits, internet services.... or just your designing time. When that time is eaten up with their nonsense, a second $800 retainer will be expected to proceed.

This retainer and dialog will make them become extre,yl more clear in what they want, thus making your job easier.

However, the only part that is refundable is, once the creation is finalized, whatever is left from that block of 6 hours.... or it can go towards the making of the signs, wraps or whatever.

This is called a nice way to sh!t or get off the pot. ​

 

"Gee, it just isn't hitting the mark". 2 months later you will see YOUR work on their van done by your competitor.

 

Just hire Dan or Joe and make them a marketing plan , brand image and send them a bill.
If they don't know what they want, have the pro's tell them what they need.

 

+1

 

+1
the only freebies should be estimates and links to your portfolio.

 

You are right, they will never be happy. I agree tell then to ---- or get off the pot.

 

I believe this is one of those jobs that could (most likely will) potentially be a nightmare for you. They are not sure exactly what they want, they just know they want something. Be prepared to spend a lot of design time

 

Wait, you are designing something for free for them knowing full well that they are also getting other free designs from other companies? No deposit, no design.

Gino has the best advice in this thread, follow it.

 

Maybe get that out and dust it off.
Just recently I did a design for someone who was about as vague and vapid as they get.
Sent three quickie samples of what she seemed to want.
She almost but not quite liked one of them.
I kept it and sent her two more as well.
She was nearly orgasmic over the one she had almost liked but initially rejected.
I even told her it was the same icon.
I wouldn't tell your client and see what happens if you rehash the old leftovers.

 

Tell Them What They Want

Come up with one more idea. Say my professional opinion is you need X,Y, and Z to promote this type of business. Explain to them that they will be advertising to a specific market and they need to limit their wordage as much as possible. Say this is what you need, lets move forward and get it done. If they still hesitate tell them you will have to start charging them a design fee by the hour. The quicker they make a decision, the cheaper it will be. That will make them want to move a lot faster. If they don't want to do that, then move on. They are not serious anyways.