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Most aggressive adhesive vinyl?

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by Rooster, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Rooster

    Rooster Very Active Member

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    I have a client who is using cut vinyl decals for their heavy equipment ID's and branding and we're having the problem of the vinyl not wanting to release from the transfer tape (medium tack). It's not the transfer tape being too aggressive, but the vinyl isn't wanting to stick to the surface.

    I've tried 3M and Arlon and neither seems better than the other. I think the issue may be that they're painting the equipment with a paint that has a fairly high silicon content to stop dirt from sticking to it.

    Is there anything that you guys know of that is a cost effective solution to this problem. Is there a lower cost vinyl than convex that is designed to stick to a low energy surface or one that has a silicone content to it?
     
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    TresL Very Active Member

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    Arlon DPF8000
     
  3. Coloradosigns

    Coloradosigns Major Contributor

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    this
     
  4. Circleville Signs

    Circleville Signs Very Active Member

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    I don't know about the 8000, but I just used the Arlon DPX6000 wrap vinyl and it was a nightmare. Adhesive was the most ridiculously aggressive adhesive I've ever seen on wrap vinyl. Ugh.
     
  5. jasonx

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    Now imagine that 10 times worse and you have DPF8000.

    You tack it and its stuck.
     
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    Dpf 8000

    I used this on the roughest textured stucco surface you can imagine and the wrap held tight outdoors for 6 months before the edges started peeling....good stuff
     
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    CS-SignSupply-TT Very Active Member

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    CONVEX! Merchant member
     
  8. FishnSigns

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    Don't use IJ35. It images great but the adhesion is fair at best.
     
  9. laserman70

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    oracal 3105ht
    very high tack
     
  10. FatCat

    FatCat Very Active Member

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    Yup, this stuff is very sticky as I just did my first job with it about 3 weeks ago. I was playing with it and it was even pulling out ink and dirt from the crevices and wrinkles in my hand.

    Will have to keep in mind about the Arlon stuff though...
     
  11. Pat Whatley

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    Great stuff at removing all the hair from your hands and arms while trimming and weeding it.
     
  12. Gene@mpls

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    I hate printing it- the adhesive gets on the media hold downs.
     
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    How does it get on the hold downs and which product?
     
  14. Mike F

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    Another +1 on the Arlon DPF8000
     
  15. Rooster

    Rooster Very Active Member

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    Thanks guys, much appreciated.

    I'm going to give a few of them a try on some sample stock and see what fairs the best.

    I also found a very aggressive adhesive from FLEXcon that seems to be rated about twice as sticky as the arlon and oracal products.
     
  16. signage

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    Pitbull!
     
  17. Gene@mpls

    Gene@mpls Very Active Member

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    dpf8000
     
  18. x2chris7x

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    oracal 3105HT - extremely sticky
     
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