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One up on Gino

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
Gino posting his unreasonable customer made me think of a pseudo customer yesterday. I'm still baffled at this one:

The guy called last week and told me he wanted a decal for his motorcycle. It was 3 inches by 8 inches. He wanted multiple decals of the same thing because he understood the idea of waste in my big printer. So he was willing to buy enough to fill an area. Now, like so many other cell phone graphic artists, he thought his graphic was AMAZING!. I asked him to send it to me so that I could take a look at it. So he did. He sent me a screen shot. I asked him if he wanted that particular image printed because it was a screen shot. He totally went off into a tanget on how decals were originally made. I quietly listened for a brief time and then I got off the phone with him. (That was last week). I sent the image cropped to the size that he wanted and asked if he wanted the black background on it. He didn't respond via email and he called. I didn't answer, my partner, Steve did. Steve told him that we needed a vector file in order to plot the decal out. They had a discussion that he would have to place it in a real graphics art program, which he said he had, adobe illustrator.
I totally forgot about the man until yesterday. He calls me and tells me he is geting a 7 day trial of adobe illustrator and that He will drop that image into AI and then turn it into a pdf and send it to me. Since that's all he had to do. I told him that it wouldn't turn it into a pdf, it would only travel as a pdf and when I got it it would still be a jpeg when I ungrouped it. That blew his mind. He then started firing questions at me. 1-why did steve tell him to get adobe illustrator? i told him because he needed vector artwork and he would probably have to redraw it. Then he said he wasn't a graphic artist and he didn't know how to redraw it. I told him to look at shutterstock for images and we could put something together for him. Suddenly he says, "well that's where I got my images from, I just cropped out the water mark". I'm just shaking my head the whole time. He spent a good 10 minutes telling me about how he created this amazing artwork on his mac computer that he cast onto his 55 inch screen tv. He then was so excited about the image that he walked up to the tv screen and took a photo of it and that's what he sent to me to print. I told him that it was a picture of a picture and that I needed an original image. He said, "if it's as bad a picture as you say it is, I'm going to print it on my printer." I think he was expecting me to get offended. But instead, i told him that was a GREAT idea. He then told me (to one up my answer) that he had some photo paper that he could use to print it on and he would hand cut it and put it on his bike with some adhesive. I told him that he should do that. He got mad because I agreed with him and said, "wait a minute, you told me that cameras on phones were big megapixels and that's what you need to print." (THat was somewhere in the conversation). I told him I had a customer and had to go because this conversation was going no where. He said, "you can say that again". I hung up. I hope to god he prints that damn image out on his printer and sees how god awful ugly it is. AND MY LUCK, he will call back.
I am already at a deficit for a 3x8 inch sticker that I never printed. Lesson learned...

Oh, i'm attaching the image for your humor. I hope you enjoy this episode of "oh my god what is wrong with some people?"
 

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Scotchbrite

No comment
I have had repeated issues crop up with file conversions. People send us a raster image and we tell them we need a vector file. They ask what type and we tell them an EPS is a good one. Unfortunately you can save a file as an EPS from Photoshop, and that's what tends to happen. The discussion gets really interesting when you're trying to explain that even though they sent you an EPS file like you asked, it's still not right.

I purchased an image from istock, or a similar site, that was supposed to be a vector file. It was an EPS file type but still a raster image. It was difficult to get their customer service to even understand the issue so I could get a refund.
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
I have had repeated issues crop up with file conversions. People send us a raster image and we tell them we need a vector file. They ask what type and we tell them an EPS is a good one. Unfortunately you can save a file as an EPS from Photoshop, and that's what tends to happen. The discussion gets really interesting when you're trying to explain that even though they sent you an EPS file like you asked, it's still not right.

I purchased an image from istock, or a similar site, that was supposed to be a vector file. It was an EPS file type but still a raster image. It was difficult to get their customer service to even understand the issue so I could get a refund.
I did a banner for a lady two summers ago. She was a neighbor of mine and she taught graphic arts at a jr high in the area. I thought she understood things. The admin staff for her school had all created bitmoji's on their phones and they sent them to her for a banner. I blew up the bit mojis to a 4'x8' banner and they were (GASP) pixelated. I tell that to the graphic artist and so she says, "oh, no worries, I will add pixels". So, she does..and it doesn't make it any better.

So she has to use the people's actual photos...which, in the education world, that's just not as fun...whatever. So then she sends me a file and I tell her it's super pixelated and she says, "HOW? it's a PDF?" So, I tell her, just because you took a jpg and exported into a pdf, the original image is STILL A JPG. SHE'S A GRAPHIC ARTIST! SHE TEACHES GRAPHIC ARTS...
 

Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
I did a banner for a lady two summers ago. She was a neighbor of mine and she taught graphic arts at a jr high in the area. I thought she understood things. The admin staff for her school had all created bitmoji's on their phones and they sent them to her for a banner. I blew up the bit mojis to a 4'x8' banner and they were (GASP) pixelated. I tell that to the graphic artist and so she says, "oh, no worries, I will add pixels". So, she does..and it doesn't make it any better.

So she has to use the people's actual photos...which, in the education world, that's just not as fun...whatever. So then she sends me a file and I tell her it's super pixelated and she says, "HOW? it's a PDF?" So, I tell her, just because you took a jpg and exported into a pdf, the original image is STILL A JPG. SHE'S A GRAPHIC ARTIST! SHE TEACHES GRAPHIC ARTS...
Refer to the teachers Union post in another thread....
 

RabidOne

New Member
I did a banner for a lady two summers ago. She was a neighbor of mine and she taught graphic arts at a jr high in the area. I thought she understood things. The admin staff for her school had all created bitmoji's on their phones and they sent them to her for a banner. I blew up the bit mojis to a 4'x8' banner and they were (GASP) pixelated. I tell that to the graphic artist and so she says, "oh, no worries, I will add pixels". So, she does..and it doesn't make it any better.

So she has to use the people's actual photos...which, in the education world, that's just not as fun...whatever. So then she sends me a file and I tell her it's super pixelated and she says, "HOW? it's a PDF?" So, I tell her, just because you took a jpg and exported into a pdf, the original image is STILL A JPG. SHE'S A GRAPHIC ARTIST! SHE TEACHES GRAPHIC ARTS...
I grew up in the business on the Mac side so never had much need to use Corel Draw. Moved to a new shop, needed to use Corel Draw and found it very Foreign so since work pays for it I took a course at the local College. The shit the Teacher was teaching the kids was all wrong. I took her aside privately and explained what she was doing wrong. Fortunately she was very receptive. Not everyone has the ability to admit they are wrong.
 

Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
This is some terribly sad testimonial. when my kiddo was in middle school, I sat in with her design class one day as a guest. they were learning the difference between raster and vector. Mr Tom asked me if I would like to explain it. I think I lost them when I started babbling about software doing math in the background, but at the end of the day, they knew they had to vectorize that website art before they could cut it out of vinyl. They were in 6th grade.

Edit, the kids were using inkscapes which is free, and yes, Gino, part of the lesson was learning how to search for copyright free images.
 

signbrad

New Member
I took a course at the local College
So did I. I just wanted to find out what they were teaching.

The courses I took were Design 1, Design 2 and Design 3. But they were not courses in design. They were courses in Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop.
The instructor did give any design instruction at all, but only instruction in how to use the Adobe tools—which is like learning to use screwdrivers and wire strippers and then calling yourself an electrician.

I wonder how common this is in small colleges? Obviously, a "design degree" from such a place may have little value.

Brad
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
I grew up in the business on the Mac side so never had much need to use Corel Draw. Moved to a new shop, needed to use Corel Draw and found it very Foreign so since work pays for it I took a course at the local College. The **** the Teacher was teaching the kids was all wrong. I took her aside privately and explained what she was doing wrong. Fortunately she was very receptive. Not everyone has the ability to admit they are wrong.
I was a teacher, so I'm really critical of teachers. And honestly, the public education system needs an overhaul.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Nah...... you have me mixed up with my cousin Joey. Joe Banana and his Bunch. We don't even look alike. DON'T EVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN..... OR IT COULD BE YOUR LAST...........
 
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