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Reflection Print

Discussion in 'Digital Printing' started by rjssigns, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Calling all digital print wizards,

    I'm wondering if this type of print is possible, and will look good, if done on clear? White flood coat then print. The hard part would be getting the gradient in the reflection to look good.
    Client really wants a reflection, and it's the only thing I can come up with. Print is going on a super dark blue(nearly black).

    I also don't have a printer with white ink, so if it is possible I need a source that can print on cast clear or laminate, then laminate. It would need to be contour cut also.

    Thanks,

    RJ
     
  2. Bubba06

    Bubba06 Just Somebody

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    Why would you flood coat white on clear media, and not just print on white media?
    I mean......If you're gonna contour cut anyways.

    Just asking.
     
  3. Jburns

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    Depending on the size of graphic, that looks like small engine turn Silver vinyl. If the print has the blue outline - I would thermal print it, then contour cut.
     
  4. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Hi Bubba,

    My thought was to mimic the look of a true shadow where the vehicle color is a component. Shadow would be a black to transparent gradient.

    At bare minimum would need to print on the shadow clear to have a chance at making it look good.
     
  5. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Thermal would be too small. Lettering without the shadow is 25" tall x 50" wide.(so far) I haven't gotten the final dimensions.
     
  6. printhog

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    How I've done these - get clear low tack app tape..


    1. design a small bleed into the top print/cut lettering (.005" or less) this is to accommodate any placement errors. gives you wiggle room.
    2. print and cut that piece. no laminate. weed and tape..
    3. print the entire design onto clear - both fade reflection and lettering.. no bleeds.
    4. on shop table apply the print/cut lettering over the printed clear using the design as registration. the .005" bleed gives wiggle room. peel off the app tape.
    5. If youre using engine turned vinyl for the center, cut it separately with a similar .005" bleed and using clear app tape, apply the engine turn in proper place. peel off the app tape.
    6. you should have a complete design now. just needs laminate.
    7. Laminate the whole thing with at least 60psi on your laminator roller. If using engine turned vinyl you may have small air gaps around letter edges - they disappear after a few sunny days..

    i suggest you design your finish contour with about .125" outside the elements, this will be a sealing edge.

    Dont rotate any of the art sections on your printer or when plotting, keep them all in the same plane. plotters and printers have minor errors in xy scale that will make registering hard at this level.

    the speedpress kit makes this work easy.. SpeedPress

    we do dozens of fuel trucks annually with inlayed 24xx gold leaf, reflective outlines, and a similar shadow. a little practice and its actually a fun job. The .0125" outside contour seals the edges up. looks good when done.
     
  7. Bubba06

    Bubba06 Just Somebody

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    So you aren't flooding the whole graphic.

    I completely understand now.
    Sorry for the confusion
     
  8. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Spot on! Check your PM's
     
  9. ProColorGraphics

    ProColorGraphics Very Active Member

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    I sent you a PM.
     
  10. printhog

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    Sorry can't help there. I have you a referral tho.

    Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
     
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