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Need Help What kind of Clear vinyl are you using for decals?

Discussion in 'Materials' started by blacknbart, May 27, 2019.

  1. blacknbart

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    What kind of Clear vinyl are you using? I'm having problems with "cut thru" decals using an Oracal clear vinyl. I usually use General Formulation for my regular decals because of the non branded #90 liner. Excellent for kiss cutting and cut thru decals. I attached a photo of the result of me cutting on the clear Oracal vinyl.
    All 500 were skewed in the same direction. This is after I ran 10 other jobs with the General Formulations without a hitch. I also always checked my equipment, printers, cutters, Rip and I even turn off the computer that controls all the equipment. I think it's the backer on the Oracal clear. What do you think?
     
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  2. Jburns

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    I don’t think the photo attached and which printer?
     
  3. blacknbart

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    I'm using both a HP360 and 560 Latex printer and a Graphtec FC8000 cutter.
     

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  4. pinkiss

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    what would be best vinyl to have text see trough, likes you see on vehicles tiny stickers with alarm immolibilizer active etc.As most seem direct reverse printed ?
     
  5. Nismoasfuh

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    I have used oracal 210 in the past with no issues. Can it be your cutting pressure? Maybe the other lam you used was thinner. Pressure/new blade will do wonders
     
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  6. Dan360

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    We use Oracal 3620 and 3651, HP 360 and Summa. This looks more like a cutter issue.
     
  7. 2CT Media

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    What Printer and Cutter are you using?
     
  8. blacknbart

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    HP 360 and 560 with a Graphtec FC8000 cutter.
     
  9. blacknbart

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    Yeah I was thinking I may have to reduce the pressure on the cutter. The funny thing is I ran a 20 piece sample and they cut damn near perfect. I then ran a 160 plus run and they all came out skewed. I am also using a Gloss 210 Lam over the top I forget to mention that. I may also have to check my blade depth maybe that's a issue as well. Fairly new blade.
     
  10. Dan360

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    I've had issues cutting heavier films too fast. My guess is the extra weight caused it to slip a bit here and there, slowed it down and it cut perfectly.
     
  11. Danr2c2

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    What General Formulations product were you using? Was it 255?
     
  12. 2CT Media

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    Are you using vertical compensation on the HP? Does graphtec have a vertical compensation method? I bet the Orafol vinyl is stretching more than the gf vinyl.
     
  13. JBurton

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    We use Arlon 4500G Clear, you have to spec clear because they also have white in the 4500G series.
    I'm running a 560 and FC8000 myself, and they work fairly well for contour cutting. I usually have an issue like this when I get greedy and try to put too many decals in one set of reg marks. On something this size, I'd go the width of the material -2" for the marks, then maybe 2-4 sets of stickers down the roll, then do another set of marks and all. How many stickers did you put in per set of reg marks?
     
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