If you are I highly recommend the series "The Men Who Built America". I thought it was going to be a snooze fest but ended up watching it for 4 hours straight last night and had to DVR the rest so I could get to sleep. It had all the major players Rockefeller, Carnegie, JP Morgan, Thomas Edison, Nick Tesla, Whiting House. The production value was fantastic, the actors were great, just all around a great series. I learned so much I am going to make my 10 year old watch it, of course I have to bribe her with money but I think it will be worth it.
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Any one out there an American History buff?
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Jillbeans
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I am, have been my whole life because my dad loved US history.
I live in an area rich with it.
I did try to watch this series. However, their constant repetition became irritating to me.
They showed the same stuff over and over, it was almost a review between commercials.
Surely there is more stock footage and photos out there.
But if it gets others interested in history, that's a good thing.
Love....Jill
I live in an area rich with it.
I did try to watch this series. However, their constant repetition became irritating to me.
They showed the same stuff over and over, it was almost a review between commercials.
Surely there is more stock footage and photos out there.
But if it gets others interested in history, that's a good thing.
Love....Jill
CES020
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Jill, catch it on the reruns. On the original airing that was really brutal. I think they were 2 hour shows. You could get the same show in a repeat in 1 hour. It was MUCH better that way. That was a painful to watch series ONLY because of the way they did that. The recaps were insane.
David Wright
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I like reading about history just not the some of the crap they have spoon fed us all of our lives. Devoting myself to other sources to counter balance that.
This is not an opinion on your post or the show because I haven't seen that.
This is not an opinion on your post or the show because I haven't seen that.
I totally agree, they give you a 2 min repeat of what you just saw 4 minutes ago.
The other thing that got on my nerves a bit were the long drawn out stare of the men. Standing looking out a window, standing looking at the factory, standing in a field looking off into the distance. It kinda cracked me up
The other thing that got on my nerves a bit were the long drawn out stare of the men. Standing looking out a window, standing looking at the factory, standing in a field looking off into the distance. It kinda cracked me up
Totally!!! lol
I kept saying I bet Fricks was probably know as the first p-r i c k. Tell ya what though he was one tough SOB.
OldPaint
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being from western pa, pittsburgh area, my grand parents came there in 1890's, my mom was was born 1909, my dad was born 1918. i got the history 1st handed on what really was going on in that industrial revolution. what you saw on this series was glossed over and kept to bear minimum of the callousness and greed of these people and how they had no concern for the workers.
there was nothing in that series about the COAL & IRON POLICE. you want corruption at its best, look it up. this form of police was the "normal" policing of that time. this in later years moved into the south, and how the police were paid protectors of the rich.
my grandfather(mothers side)was a businessman. they had a pool hall ice cream parlor. he was also involved with the starters of UNITED MINE WORKERS. the big coal/steel companies at that time, targeted him to be killed. there was dynamite found by the dog under the house, my mother was lassoed by one of these paid thugs of the coal company and dragged down the street infront of her fathers store, to let him know if he didnt stop working with unions, these people could kill his children.
my fathers father, was uneducated russian immigrant coal miner, with a bit of drinking habit. he and his family lived in a "company house" worked in the "company mine", got all their food,clothing coal at the "company store. was never paid in u.s. currancy. was paid in coal company "chits", only trade able at the company store. my father went to work in the mine with his 3 brothers, and MY FATHER WAS 9 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!! the youngest of the family. 6 days a week 10 hours a day!!!!! this is how it was in 1928!!!! want more truths of this kinda stuff history did a story MATTAWAN MASSACRE. the police where nothing more then hired thugs, and the national guard was brought in.......
there was nothing in that series about the COAL & IRON POLICE. you want corruption at its best, look it up. this form of police was the "normal" policing of that time. this in later years moved into the south, and how the police were paid protectors of the rich.
my grandfather(mothers side)was a businessman. they had a pool hall ice cream parlor. he was also involved with the starters of UNITED MINE WORKERS. the big coal/steel companies at that time, targeted him to be killed. there was dynamite found by the dog under the house, my mother was lassoed by one of these paid thugs of the coal company and dragged down the street infront of her fathers store, to let him know if he didnt stop working with unions, these people could kill his children.
my fathers father, was uneducated russian immigrant coal miner, with a bit of drinking habit. he and his family lived in a "company house" worked in the "company mine", got all their food,clothing coal at the "company store. was never paid in u.s. currancy. was paid in coal company "chits", only trade able at the company store. my father went to work in the mine with his 3 brothers, and MY FATHER WAS 9 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!! the youngest of the family. 6 days a week 10 hours a day!!!!! this is how it was in 1928!!!! want more truths of this kinda stuff history did a story MATTAWAN MASSACRE. the police where nothing more then hired thugs, and the national guard was brought in.......
I do not doubt any of that happened Old Paint. The Pinkerton's were total thugs. I knew the judges were paid off when Rockafella had to disband his companies, yet get to keep shares in the new ones. And they did show the Johns Town flood and why it happened. Frick made them widen the damn so he could get his carriage thru.
OldPaint
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angela, the COAL & IRON POLICE, were not even pinkertons. no police background more criminals then honest. they were hired for their ability to bust heads for money. Carnegie had the men in his plant build the walls to protect the plant as he had plans to fire the lot of them for union activity. which he did and it backfired on him when the workers stayed in the mill. he was planning on new non-union sympathizers, hence the word S.C.A.B.
JACK LONDON(writter) said this about them: “After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab.
A scab is a two-legged animal with a cork-screw soul, a water-logged brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the Devil shuts the gates of Hell to keep him out.
No man has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation.
Esau was a traitor to himself: Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a strikebreaker is a traitor to his God, his country, his wife, his family and his class.”
them days people didnt make anachronisms of things like this but choose words to discribe the vileness of people who did this. and in the 1890's, a SCAB was a useless, nasty piece of flesh soon to be discarded by the host body)))).
JACK LONDON(writter) said this about them: “After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab.
A scab is a two-legged animal with a cork-screw soul, a water-logged brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the Devil shuts the gates of Hell to keep him out.
No man has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation.
Esau was a traitor to himself: Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a strikebreaker is a traitor to his God, his country, his wife, his family and his class.”
them days people didnt make anachronisms of things like this but choose words to discribe the vileness of people who did this. and in the 1890's, a SCAB was a useless, nasty piece of flesh soon to be discarded by the host body)))).
