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Be careful sharing your photos online....

peavey123

New Member
Well, you know where to go when you need food pictures or first-person feet pics. ;)

I'm not at all surprised by this, seeing that FB owns Instagram.
 

tsgstl

New Member
I have only ever posted things on the internet that I don't care who sees. Whether it be FB, YouTube or Forums like this.
 

CES020

New Member
Boy, this was an interesting day yesterday on this story. Huge backlash in the tech media, if anyone followed it.

National Geographic posted this about it :

http://mashable.com/2012/12/18/national-geographic-dark-instagram/

Looks like after all the public pressure, they caved a little and said they are "reviewing" their policy and will adjust it a little.

If you are interested in copyright issues, this is an interesting story to follow right now, happening in real time.
 

CES020

New Member
Yeah I saw that last night..... that's just nuts.

Facebook is making some seriously stupid business decisions lately....dunno what they're smoking.

I don't care about instagram, and only slightly care about facebook....but if this is what they (facebook) are planning on doing I'll have no problem cancelling my account. I already saw a bunch of people on facebook last night that said they were cancelling their instagram account due to the policy that (was) is going to come in effect in the new year.

Can you imagine having a fleet of client vehicles in your possession only to turn around and rent them out to the public? Pretty much what they're proposing.... stealing other peoples property without their consent in order to turn a profit from it.

Bullchit if you ask me.

I think Facebook didn't even know what they had until the last couple of years. It's pure gold. The ability to data mine their information has got to be worth billions to people. Forget the rights of people discussion for a moment, just think about the power and money behind knowing what masses of people do, where they go, how they act, what they buy, and everything else about their lives. Mining that information and being able to sell it to the highest bidder for marketing purposes has just got to be like free money to them.

So let me see if I understand this all......people, strangers, will all post all their life information into my database by the second, telling me all their movements, actions, and lifestyles, and then I just have to write a query to extract that by any demographic I want, which I can sell for millions at a pop? Yeah, that sounds like a good business model......
 

rjssigns

Active Member
When you use these "free" services you are the PRODUCT not the CONSUMER.

Read it. Learn it. Live it.
 

Pat Whatley

New Member
Can you imagine having a fleet of client vehicles in your possession only to turn around and rent them out to the public? Pretty much what they're proposing.... stealing other peoples property without their consent in order to turn a profit from it.

Bullchit if you ask me.

That's not at all what they're proposing. They are telling you straight up that the cost of using their FREE STORAGE, and their FREE SOFTWARE, and their FREE BANDWIDTH, and their FREE ACCESS is that they are going to let anyone willing to pay them use your pictures. If you want to use their FREE STORAGE, SOFTWARE, BANDWIDTH, AND ACCESS you'll have to consent to that....and they're telling you that up front. If you don't like it you are absolutely free to use any of the myriad of pay sites out there.

Has anyone ever bothered to ask who owns the rights to pictures posted on this site? For all anyone knows Fred is gonna release a coffee table book of bad logo designs and ugly wraps one of these days.
 

Fred Weiss

Merchant Member
Has anyone ever bothered to ask who owns the rights to pictures posted on this site? For all anyone knows Fred is gonna release a coffee table book of bad logo designs and ugly wraps one of these days.

Point taken. I don't use it myself but I'm sure it's in their terms and conditions that everyone agrees to without reading.

And Fred, I'll take 2 copies please.....as long as Addy's masterpieces are included. :rolleyes:

:pops_blinking:

We decided long ago not to sell the books in North America, the United Kingdom or Australia/New Zealand for fear our source material would dry up. Bad Yankee Sign Design Volumes I, II and III have been on the best seller lists for years now in both China and India though. :ROFLMAO:

Seriously though, and I guess I'm just an old curmudgeon, I don't understand the success and the acceptance of Facebook, Twitter and the like by average people. I understand the acceptance and exploitation by business and political interests as well as militant groups. But average people have more than enough intelligence to know that these are "for profit" enterprises operated by sophisticated managers whose main interest is to maximize revenue and profits for themselves and their investors.

One cannot count on or expect these enterprises to simply follow business models of selling advertising and charging for premium services. The temptation is too great not to violate and exploit the trust that users place in these enterprises.

We've been asked on many occasions to sell our member list or assist in a number of ways to provide information to commercial interests. We've always refused and will continue to do so.
 

genericname

New Member
Late on this, as I spent yesterday hugging a bucket, but doesn't anyone find it odd that Facebook has basically the same policy regarding content posted there, yet nobody's making a fuss? The point isn't if they're actually going to use it in their marketing (or anyone else's), but that they take ownership at all.

I understand it from a legal perspective. It allows you to edit, and delete content that doesn't fit the guidelines of your corporate policy, or the law, but it still leaves waaaay too much room for the corporate drones to exploit.
 

Mike F

New Member
average people have more than enough intelligence to know that these are "for profit" enterprises operated by sophisticated managers whose main interest is to maximize revenue and profits for themselves and their investors.

You're giving people wayyyyyy too much credit...
 
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