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Black Damper Completely Full????

ok so here is my situation, the printer sat for a few days, went to print and printing was horrible. Decided to run cleaning carts as I have not done so in a while. Ran cleaning carts, put ink back in, did ink fill and no black printing. Just pulled the cover off and I see that the black damper is completely full not just half full like supposed to be. Should I replace damper? Or any other suggestions?
Thanks
 

DRamm76

New Member
Have you tried to contact your dealer? This sounds like it may be the beginning of something more serious..If you're not under warranty, hit up ballgame on here. He's a service tech. You can pay him to come fix it
 

Biker Scout

New Member
Nothing is wrong with it... other than you have clogged vacuum lines under the capping station. Search for my detailed posts on how to clear it out.

What happened was that you actually didn't run a cleaning cycle as you has thought... if the vacuum lines were clogged and couldn't prime the printhead to begin with. And if it can't pull a vacuum through the print head, because of clogged bleed lines, it also won't suck up cleaning fluid either.

You've got cross-mojination going on... ink will seep into the pad, and be sucked up by capillary action into the other nozzles. That's a sure sign that you've got a clog. If ink were able to pass through the pad, it wouldn't build up a puddle and mix into your dampers like that.

I'm dealing with the exact same scenario right now... printer sat all week while we were working on non-printing related stuff. So, I'm going to take the side cover off, flush the lines with denatured alcohol then cleaning solution from an opened cleaning cartridge, and do a quick clean cycle, test print, and then I'm back in business again. I haven't used the actual cartridge cleaning method in quite a long time, now that I know what's actually going on.
 
Thanks for the info Biker Scout! I found your post with the detailed info. So what you are saying is that the line between the capping station and the waste tank are clogged correct? That is why my black damper was full, but what does not make sense to me is that there are 3 colors that come out of one head and empty into the same side of the capping station. When I ran the cleaning carts I had solution coming out of both lines that lead into the ink waste tank. How does that work? There are only 2 lines coming out of the capping station that go down to the waste tank correct? Maybe I am just confused...lol
 

Biker Scout

New Member
Well, from what I've read, on the older Falcon, if the capping station isn't kept super clean, like the rubber ring around the edge can't seal then you can also have a vacuum leak problem.

When you ran the cleaning solution, did all the lines run clear and into the waste tank? Supposedly the power flush wastes a real ton of ink and solution. Your waste tray or bottle should have filled up considerably. If it didn't I'd still suspect crusties in the lines under the capping station.

I made a device that I can hook up to a Vacuum Pump that wraps around my print head with a silicone gasket. Made it on the CNC Router. Anyway, when it gets real bad, I'll use that to prime the print head instead of drawing such a heavy load on the puny little built in vacuum pump. I don't waste as much extra ink either.

Sometimes when you get air way up in the lines it's almost an impossible feat to get all the bubbles out, and you end up with an ink starvation issue that also leads to clogged print heads. That's a $1200 dollar mistake I don't want to make again. Always pull ink and air through the dampers with a syringe. You have to kinda tilt the damper upside down so the air bubbles go towards the hole where you have the syringe.

If you ever get cross mojination with the yellow, you almost have to throw away the damper. Because even a little bit of cyan or black can muddy up one or both of the dampers, and your profiles will never quite be the same. You can do a pretty good job of trying to purge the ink with the syringe method at that point, but what I've done is just carefully pulled the damper off completely and ran some cleaning solution through it, then pre filled it with some yellow before I attempted to hook it back up.

Careful, when you pull the lines off the dampers, you introduce air to almost the entire ink line all the way back. Keep in mind that will have to be pulled out through the damper, as it's got a one-way valve to keep air form going back in. When you see ink creep, it's time for new dampers.
 
So just an update on my problem...
I had someone run the cleaning carts as stated and then my problems occurred.
So I find out later that the cleaning carts did not have much fluid in them and when the cycle was finished the carts were sucked dry!
I took the covers off and sure enough there was so much air in the lines that I had to disconnect the lines in sections starting at the ink cartridge station to suck the ink through to get it going again... lol
So the moral of the story is to always dig deeper into the situation to find out "exactly" what happened before panic sets in...
 
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