Hahahahahaha

[WildWestDesigns]

Opt out (which is also a red flag, I would prefer something like this opt in (well not being there at all, but after the scratch that MS paid for it, doubt that will happen)) for now (although I'm sure it will switch back with each new update):

Co-pilot, your new "friend"

Clippy 3.0 (except I actually do miss Clippy 1.0), but I digress.

 

[Humble PM]

except I actually do miss Clippy 1.0

OK, that is fine, thank you sharing.

The rest of this copilot, and its ilk, plastic friend who is fun to be with $hit is fricking awful. And once you're fully thin cliented where will all that personal data reside...

This sounds more like the future

 

[WildWestDesigns]

OK, that is fine, thank you sharing.

I just try to spread a little sunshine into everyone's lives, just like Bret Maverick.

The rest of this copilot, and its ilk, plastic friend who is fun to be with $hit is fricking awful. And once you're fully thin cliented where will all that personal data reside...

This sounds more like the future

MS has already stated as much, so it is the future that they want and that's were the money is, information/knowledge of users.

MS 365 Link

Even some demanding software can run in the browser thanks to WASM, so given enough time, there won't be much in the way of technological blocks to do this even for those of us that use demanding programs.

Now, I do have some NUCs, but everything runs local and far better security compared to the Link, but I'm old school. I think production machines should be offline far more with limited connectivity for just a task or two and after that disconnected.

 

[netsol]

I called my attorney a f**king idiot today when he told me he “needed copilot” ( he views it as a substitute for having an employee with half a brain.)

for a tiny law office, I can’t imagine anything that will benefit them less

i imagine in a year or two there will be “add on packs” like people write for quick books, for specific industries.

I see some value there

 

[WildWestDesigns]

I called my attorney a f**king idiot today when he told me he “needed copilot” ( he views it as a substitute for having an employee with half a brain.)

for a tiny law office, I can’t imagine anything that will benefit them less

Cost cutting, lots of people are willing to do it. I'm surprised that he isn't aware of what happened with some lawyers that went into a criminal court citing fake cases that were spat out of what passes for "AI" and getting into trouble.

One Example

I really worry when most doctors are going to be using it (of course, that's the least of my concerns, that's just going to be adding on top).

I foresee worse quality of output as things go further along, especially if "training" is done the same way. Eventually get to a more incestuous part of when "AI" is trained on other "AI" output. Which I think to a small degree has already started happening.

Brave new world, at least it better be.

As much as I like tech (and I still do, just not using Windows or Mac), I find as I get older, the more I prefer the analog ways of doing things and so glad that I was born in a time before all of this really took hold.

 

[pro-UP]

Cost cutting, lots of people are willing to do it. I'm surprised that he isn't aware of what happened with some lawyers that went into a criminal court citing fake cases that were spat out of what passes for "AI" and getting into trouble.

One Example

I really worry when most doctors are going to be using it (of course, that's the least of my concerns, that's just going to be adding on top).

I foresee worse quality of output as things go further along, especially if "training" is done the same way. Eventually get to a more incestuous part of when "AI" is trained on other "AI" output. Which I think to a small degree has already started happening.

Brave new world, at least it better be.

As much as I like tech (and I still do, just not using Windows or Mac), I find as I get older, the more I prefer the analog ways of doing things and so glad that I was born in a time before all of this really took hold.

My doctor's office just implemented co-pilot and we were asked to sign a consent form. I asked if consent can be withdrawn at any time and the receptionist acted like I asked if I could cut off her hand. I am not unhappy with the thought of AI in medical uses. I have had enough off-putting experiences with doctor's that are unwilling or unable to consider anything outside the top five reasons someone may go to the doctor's office that I welcome an easily accessed source of information (deeper than the memory of a single individual). Change and growth is often overwhelming. The surgeons that operate remotely in places where they do not have enough doctors is incredible. The scope surgery options are safer. Instead of splitting people like a watermelon, a minimally invasive procedure is faster, easier, and less down time for the patient. I think there will always have to be audits and quality checks, but I'm excited to see what else we can do each year.

 

[WildWestDesigns]

My doctor's office just implemented co-pilot and we were asked to sign a consent form. I asked if consent can be withdrawn at any time and the receptionist acted like I asked if I could cut off her hand. I am not unhappy with the thought of AI in medical uses. I have had enough off-putting experiences with doctor's that are unwilling or unable to consider anything outside the top five reasons someone may go to the doctor's office that I welcome an easily accessed source of information (deeper than the memory of a single individual). Change and growth is often overwhelming. The surgeons that operate remotely in places where they do not have enough doctors is incredible. The scope surgery options are safer. Instead of splitting people like a watermelon, a minimally invasive procedure is faster, easier, and less down time for the patient. I think there will always have to be audits and quality checks, but I'm excited to see what else we can do each year.

"AI" or what passes for it, doesn't fit in the realm of what would be a more positive improvement over current tech as you described with better operation procedures etc (and there are actually more available compared to what people see/hear about, but because insurance doesn't cover them, most doctor's won't suggest them).

I have actually seen where doctors are unable to do anything if the xray/ct scan doesn't show them something and those technologies aren't nearly as troubling as AI (and sometimes they actually miss some nasty stuff as well), even though they do have their downsides (Therac-25 anyone(if I recall, was capable of not only X-ray, but dispensing treatment as well)?). I worry about something like that, where searching deeper is over looked by a more assembly line approach. "AI" still misses a lot of stuff in various endeavours that people are trying to use this in.

Of course, have to wonder if new technologies are actually solid or are we looking at another Theranos? Sometimes it takes awhile to determine one way or another. Safety-critical systems should be under the upmost scrutiny and it is still way too much of the Wild West for what "AI" (which it is not AI that most people think of it as, it is a glorified web scraper at this junction, that has been proven shoddy at best).

that I welcome an easily accessed source of information (deeper than the memory of a single individual).

Depends on the memory of the individual, how good they are at the job and it depends on the quality of the information that is so "easily accessed". Quantity != Quality in of itself.

"AI" still invents things out of whole cloth. Doesn't bother me as much when it's in a crap meme or thumbnail, but if it's going to be applied to me medically, I do have a little bit of uneasyness.

 

[pro-UP]

"AI" or what passes for it, doesn't fit in the realm of what would be a more positive improvement over current tech as you described with better operation procedures etc (and there are actually more available compared to what people see/hear about, but because insurance doesn't cover them, most doctor's won't suggest them).

I have actually seen where doctors are unable to do anything if the xray/ct scan doesn't show them something and those technologies aren't nearly as troubling as AI (and sometimes they actually miss some nasty stuff as well), even though they do have their downsides (Therac-25 anyone(if I recall, was capable of not only X-ray, but dispensing treatment as well)?). I worry about something like that, where searching deeper is over looked by a more assembly line approach. "AI" still misses a lot of stuff in various endeavours that people are trying to use this in.

Of course, have to wonder if new technologies are actually solid or are we looking at another Theranos? Sometimes it takes awhile to determine one way or another. Safety-critical systems should be under the upmost scrutiny and it is still way too much of the Wild West for what "AI" (which it is not AI that most people think of it as, it is a glorified web scraper at this junction, that has been proven shoddy at best).



Depends on the memory of the individual, how good they are at the job and it depends on the quality of the information that is so "easily accessed". Quantity != Quality in of itself.

"AI" still invents things out of whole cloth. Doesn't bother me as much when it's in a crap meme or thumbnail, but if it's going to be applied to me medically, I do have a little bit of uneasyness.

Agreed with many of the concerns mentioned (wild west being a very apt description). Theranos is a good example of people gaming others for pure monetary gains and the loss of focus on the cure or solution to a problem. It was a great idea. Sick people constantly have to get their blood drawn. It's painful and a little scary. If a single drop of blood could give all the data needed to diagnose people, that would have been life changing.

The recent "dire wolf" story being a another good example of lies and misrepresenting information to suit and benefit the tech bros. They are claiming to have brought back an extinct animal. Why? The money always leads the way. This is opening the door for big money projects funded by the government and FOMO run of investors for big gains. There are many science resources disputing the claims of an extinct animal being brought back to life. They did genetic modification by adding genetic features to a grey wolf. So the closest they came was possibly a hybrid, if they can be believed that they were able to extract the dna (which a lot of scientists are saying this is not possible).

I had to look up Therac-25. This is one more horror story of science right there. The things people have done to others in the name of science is chilling. Especially if we consider how women's ob/gyn came to have their knowledge (terrifying is a word that comes to mind).

This was a very circular way of saying I am excited by the continued growth in science and medicine, with more than a little trepidation mixed in for fun. Just the other day I saw video of a group of university students developing metal joint replacements that are 3D printed with similar structure to our bones. This may mean better acceptance by the body of the implant because it encourages the growth of new bone intertwined with the joint replacement. They even made a metal heart that may work better than what currently exists so patients can have more time while waiting on an implant.

 

[WildWestDesigns]

Especially if we consider how women's ob/gyn came to have their knowledge (terrifying is a word that comes to mind).

There is a line that has always stuck with me from the old Rathbone/Bruce movie SH Faces Death. Rathbone is looking at a portable medical kit and goes to Bruce, "You know Watson, the instruments that save life are hardly more pleasant to look at than those that take it".