Need Help Mutoh VJ 1624 branded as OCE CS 9360

[Jordan55]

Hello, I'm new to the forum and I hope you help me. I have Mutoh 1624 which is branded as OCE CS 9360. We can no longer get cartridges for it. The service technician told me that the cards could be removed, but first it had to be pure Motoh. He promised to contact a Mutoh technician to tell him how this could be done. But more than two months have passed and he obviously doesn't care. Sorry for the bad English and I hope it's understandable. I will be very grateful for any solution to the problem. I am already very worried about the print head not being damaged by the long stay. Thanks

When I put a cassette for Mutoh 1624 I get this error

 

[Solventinkjet]

If I had to guess, they won't allow you to change the machine model once it's already an Oce. You might be able to get a new/used 1624 board and install it but there's no guarantee that will work and it's a pretty expensive part to guess. It's possible the junction board will need to be replaced as well. It's what reads the chips. There is firmware for the junction board that may be able to be changed but again, I've never done it and have never heard of anyone doing it so this is just spit balling.

 

[Umca]

Actually, it is possible to change from OCE wthout any hardware replacements. I saw few units while help for adjusting. Rebranded Mutoh printers (like OCE, Xerox) very cheap on second hand market. Because support is stops. So, most cases it is a tidbit for new small companies with limited amount. They are not imagine how much will need for start up these kind of printer.

 

[MelloImagingTechnologies]

Look for a Mutoh firmware update?

 

[Jordan55]

Hello
do you think that if i upload the firmware it will accept cartridges for Мutoh. When I start the machine, the display says Mutoh VJ 1624. I can't find the firmware to download anywhere.

 

[Solventinkjet]

Edit: You already answered my question Whoops!

With Mutoh there is a .JFL file that is the main firmware for the printer and then there is also an .MFL file that is the ink chip firmware. If you can get your hands on the .MFL file it might do the trick.

 

[Umca]

No. JFL - firmware file for mainboard. MFL - firmware file for heater board.
Your OCE is really Mutoh printer. Other files except Mutoh 1624 firmware you will can not upload to the printer. Because service software analysis printer's serial number and check if it correct firmware for this printer. Same time the printer has a Brand code somwhere deep inside. Firmware upload will not change Brand code. For accept Mutoh cartridges you have to change Brand code.

 

[Solventinkjet]

No. JFL - firmware file for mainboard. MFL - firmware file for heater board.
Your OCE is really Mutoh printer. Other files except Mutoh 1624 firmware you will can not upload to the printer. Because service software analysis printer's serial number and check if it correct firmware for this printer. Same time the printer has a Brand code somwhere deep inside. Firmware upload will not change Brand code. For accept Mutoh cartridges you have to change Brand code.

The heater board is what decodes the ink cartridges though.

 

[Umca]

Decodes - maybe. But it transhfers the data from card to mainboard. And, the mainboard compare brand code in data from card with brand code of mainboard.

 

[Solventinkjet]

Decodes - maybe. But it transhfers the data from card to mainboard. And, the mainboard compare brand code in data from card with brand code of mainboard.

That makes sense.

 

[Jordan55]

I sent the tape files to an acquaintance, but he was unable to remove the card search. If anyone here more understanding can do it.

 

[Umca]

What tape files?

 

[Jordan55]

I downloaded the MPI file from the machine. I don't know if it's the same as the MFL. The colleague said he could rework it and not look for cards, but he failed.

 

[Umca]

It is not the same. I think the way is right. But not so much peoples can do it. I am not sure they wil do it for free.

 

[Jordan55]

of course, whatever it costs i agree to pay. if only i could use my machine.

 

[chris20630]

did you get help? If I find the same (but head broken) Mutoh 1624 printer as my Oce: which parts, boards I have to transfer to get Oce work with Mutoh inks. Are These boards All on right sie behind the door?

 

[Umca]

You have to replace mainboard. And update firmware of mainboard or heater control board for same release. Or replace heater board too.
Or
Change parameter values in your OCE without any board replacement.