Table Top Wraps Don't Hold

[Brands Imaging]

So we've been doing table top wraps for a few years and never had a problem with IJ35c-10 and Oraguard 210M.
Last year we did a nightclub with the same combo and they only last 9 months.
They gave us another shot and I didn't want the same thing happening so I used the same vinyl and ordered a 5mil
textured polycarbonate lam - and this is what I got pictured below after 3 months.

 

[HulkSmash]

most likely depends on the surface texture, or finish. We also do table tops in ij 35c without issue.

I would offer to redo them, and try just using 180.


good luck

 

[kanini]

Try floor laminate? It's matte but it holds up quite well...

 

[Brands Imaging]

We used the Polycarbonate instead of floor lam because we thought it would be a harder material!
I guess my next step is a high-tack arlon (or something close) and a floor lam 5 mil or higher.

Just a heads up - this is a 100% Flat concrete style (sealed) 3x3 table.

 

[peavey123]

I have been using this stuff that I have labelled as "fathead" vinyl. haha I believe it's an ultraflex material. It's thick, techincally removable, but sticks really well on every tabletop I've put it on. I laminate it with a textured lam. I've done a bunch for home depot and they use them on their cash register counters.

IF you don't want to try something like that. Maybe try IJ35 without comply? Just throwing that out there. IJ35 C seems to bubble on more textured substrates I've been noticing. Like PVC for example.

 

[Mosh]

+++on using floor material.

 

[2B]

I have been using this stuff that I have labelled as "fathead" vinyl. haha I believe it's an ultraflex material. It's thick, techincally removable, but sticks really well on every tabletop I've put it on. I laminate it with a textured lam. I've done a bunch for home depot and they use them on their cash register counters.

IF you don't want to try something like that. Maybe try IJ35 without comply? Just throwing that out there. IJ35 C seems to bubble on more textured substrates I've been noticing. Like PVC for example.

very true, have been seeing that also more so lately and it is causing some defiant issues with installs

 

[Brands Imaging]

These are all good points. However, if that theory was true why does the 3M textured film have air egress?

 

[Letterbox Mike]

I would stick with the polycarbonate laminate but I would use a high bond vinyl I stead of standard, we've had similar issues on tables with regular vinyl. Arlon DPF8000 or Convex Pitbull work great though.

 

[ProWraps]

we do a ton of these for sky high sports. its a trampoline place with kids....

arlon 8000 with the thickest crappiest laminate you can buy.

 

[JoeBoomer]

Arlon good, but prob. overkill

I would re-do them with Arlon 8000 & 3M 3645 floor laminate. (maybe 3648 if clarity is an issue) That should be a sure-fire way of fixing the problem.

Expensive as s***, but you won't be getting a call back to fix them again.


I've used the following with success:


Vinyl: Arlon 8000; IJ-180c; Oracal 3651; (even Oracal 3640 for over 1 year of use)
Laminate: 3M 3645, Arlon 3220, Seal polycarb lam



If you do it with Arlon 8000 & polycarb or floor lam, you'll only have to do it once.* Watch your arm-hair with the Arlon though. You could do an "at-home" skin graph with that stuff.