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Tired of all these laminates shrinking down!!! Need help with a laminanate please...
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Christian @ 2CT Media
Active Member
Which Lam did you use last? I ask because I have a long standing fight with 3M over this.
studebaker
Deluded Artist
"Briteline" UV laminate from Grimco works exceptionally well, at a reasonable price. I've been using it for the last two years on outdoor calendered projects with zero complaints or problems.
jayhawksigns
New Member
We have been using Arlon 3420 here without any issue that I have been made aware of. Switched to it after a similar issue, though not to that degree.
chester215
Just call me Chester.
Tried other brands and always have gone back to Arlon 3420.
Kentucky Wraps
Kentucky Wraps
I just use Cast Lam for everything. allows for faster work flow (not changing laminate so often) and more peace of mind when products leave the shop.
Before you start thinking I'm a moron for using more expensive material when I don't have to...
The per. sq. ft. cost for the price difference is $0.40
So with that, I've streamlined production and have a non shrinking, longer lasting overlaminate on EVERYTHING.
Before you start thinking I'm a moron for using more expensive material when I don't have to...
The per. sq. ft. cost for the price difference is $0.40
So with that, I've streamlined production and have a non shrinking, longer lasting overlaminate on EVERYTHING.
klingsdesigns
New Member
we use orajet 210 and havent had any problems that i know of.
0igo
New Member
thank you all for the replies. i found Avery DOL 1360 for a great price online. $200 a roll of laminate. Does anyone know if that is a good lam? i searched here on signs101 and i read a few bad/good things about the lam. All posts were 2-3 years old however. Does anyone use avery Dol 1360?
0igo
New Member
it wasnt 3m. it was a roll i got from from a supplier here (wont say who) and another from signwarehouse. the one from signwarehouse got burnt in the sun. and i was almost about to buy that 3m roll till i read your post. Crazy what happened to you. hopefully they refunded you. I just found an Avery roll (DOL 1360) online for $200. im wondering if i should go with that or not.
ProColorGraphics
New Member
I've had awesome luck with the 3150 laminate from Substance Media. 54" is only $199 too.
Christian @ 2CT Media
Active Member
DOL1360 is no longer in production and has been replaced by 1360Z. We never had any issues with 1360 and have used it for about 2.5 years since the issues with 3M.
FatCat
New Member
That doesn't sound right unless you're talking about a half roll or 30". Back when 1360 was still around I think we were paying around $350/roll for 54/150...
That said, I have high praise for Fellers Lamex brand cast material. I think we're paying about $325/roll and have had no issues. Otherwise Oracal 210 gloss is the only intermediate lam I have found that holds up longer than it is rated, the matte is OK but tends to not have as long of life.
Just my .02¢
I'm not a fan of the DOL1360Z Lam. I did a graphics package on a Kia Sportage a few months ago. Avery 2105 vinyl, with DOL1360Z lam. Within a month the customer returned, and the stripe, down the flat side of the vehicle, no curve at all, had shrank about .25in, in less than a month. Vinyl and Lam shrank, leaving behind only adhesive. I started using all 3M vinyl and laminate at that point. Been pretty pleased with the 3M Envision print wrap series, but i will be switching to the IJ180mC-10 the next time I order just because it's a new cheaper option with all the qualities I need out of the Envision.
Fares Bayazeed
New Member
Look for a dealer in Canada that represents the D & K Line of cold laminates if you are looking for full coverage - Floor Graphic Dual mounting Adhesive Clear 3" core 38"x200' Part #FIC38200 Note this is not Optically Clear. There are several options out there as well but at a higher cost. Figure 31 cents / square foot into your cost.
Vital Designs
Vital Designs
The shrinkage has nothing to do with the 1360Z, you are using a calendered vinyl in 2105. We use a large amount of 1105/1360z for full wraps and just about everything else on vehicles and never have this issue.
Christian @ 2CT Media
Active Member
This is more an issue of the base film then lam. The lam is not going to stay put if the film shrinks, but if the lam shrinks and the film stays you have a problem.
Christian @ 2CT Media
Active Member
That price isn't unrealistic, I know 2 of my local vendors were selling full rolls for less than that at the end of September when they were trying to clear their stock.