Will this work?

[Locals Find!]

I have a client who is wanting to order 40 48"x48" site signs. He wants them to be as low cost as possible as they are going on empty lots all over the county and the commissions on these lots are very low less than $200 each. He wants to sandwich them between 2 2x4s on each side to make posts.

My question is would 4mil coroplast hold up in this situation. I usually only use 10mil for this but, since he is wanting to cut costs 4 mil is really the only option available that I know of.

If you have a suggestion for a better material in the same cost range I am open to suggestions.

 

[ChicagoGraphics]

4mil will hold up, you can also use 13oz. banner material

 

[Gino]

Are they all going to have the same copy ??

 

[Locals Find!]

Are they all going to have the same copy ??

Yes, everything identical. Each lot is only $4,000 a piece so these are bottom feeder lots around here. Get a piece of Florida for less than a decent used car type of deal.

 

[tsgstl]

It will work better if the flutes go the correct way.
I agree with the banner material idea. Easier to ship easier to make. You could even use the mesh banner material. It is not too pricey and we do them for a oil changing company that hangs them in there bays. They hold up much better than the regular banner material. I personally wouldn't do the coro idea unless it was backed with cheap plywood or a couple of 2x4's at least. But as long as he knows the risk.....

 

[Flame]

Curious how much you are charged for 10mil coroplast. My local suppliers price is only $8 difference between 4mil and 10mil.

As has been suggested, short term and on the cheap, just tack up some good 13oz banners stretched taunt. I mean, we're talking UBER cheap here, so might as well.

 

[Gino]

The extra baggage of someone not making money on your signs is no reason to make something cheap. These things will be out there for months on end and if they don’t hold up, you’ll be notified immediately.

However, as always, you want down and dirty, so screen print them, get those green fence posts at Home Depot, wire them fast and bang them into the ground. No holes to dig, no mess, no fuss and wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am…. you‘re done. Each sign would bring you about…. $85 each installed. You’ll make 50% and more on your markup.

Me, I'd flatbed print them, regardless of how many colors and you couldn't touch my price.

I'm seeing more and more people getting all levels of flatbed printers and unless some of you don't get off your hands, you're all gonna be up that famous creek without a paddle when it comes to multiples.

This job could be turned out in about 6 to 7 hours and my printer is considered slow.

 

[Locals Find!]

Curious how much you are charged for 10mil coroplast. My local suppliers price is only $8 difference between 4mil and 10mil.

As has been suggested, short term and on the cheap, just tack up some good 13oz banners stretched taunt. I mean, we're talking UBER cheap here, so might as well.

I sub out the coro signs to a merchant member on here so I go off of what they charge me. The 4 mil was half the price of the 10 mil at 25 sheets and half the shipping.

If any members on here wanna put a bid in on the job I am open to other suppliers. Price me out for 50 4x4s Full color 2 sided in 4mil and 10 mil

 

[J Hill Designs]

dont forget 4mil opaque or you wont be able to read them...

 

[HulkSmash]

4x4 4mil? In my opinion...i wouldn't do it. I would just use 10 mil and call it a day... just to be safe

 

[Circleville Signs]

I think that the best idea given here is banner. If you insist on using coro, 4mil flatbed printed is the way to go. However, a 4'x4', installed? Your guy would be paying me more per sign than his commission on the lot.

I hate these kinds of customers and do my very best to not touch them with a 10' pole.

 

[GoodPeopleFlags]

4x4 4mil? In my opinion...i wouldn't do it. I would just use 10 mil and call it a day... just to be safe

I agree. Do the job correctly and if the customer doesn't want to pay for it, then he can get a crappy job done by someone else. Who do you think he'll call when the signs fail in 6 months, a year or 2?

I also agree with Flame - there's not much difference in price between 4 & 10mm.

 

[Circleville Signs]

Well, raw cost, 10mm is about 2x the cost of 4mm.

 

[Bill Modzel]

Split the difference and go with the 6mm coro. I use it for political signs all the the time.

 

[Locals Find!]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Banners I can't see working well here as I would be having him putting up 4 ft x 4ft square sails. I don't care how they are bolted in they won't hold in Florida winds. They are bound to fail without a backer or pull the posts clean out of the ground.

I am going to give him all the options with prices and let him decide at this point. I am not doing the installs so I lose out on the real money maker for me right there.

I almost don't want this job because it just is giving me that feeling, I am going to get screwed somehow (and not in a good way). I may just walk away from this one.

 

[HulkSmash]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Banners I can't see working well here as I would be having him putting up 4 ft x 4ft square sails. I don't care how they are bolted in they won't hold in Florida winds. They are bound to fail without a backer or pull the posts clean out of the ground.

I am going to give him all the options with prices and let him decide at this point. I am not doing the installs so I lose out on the real money maker for me right there.

I almost don't want this job because it just is giving me that feeling, I am going to get screwed somehow (and not in a good way). I may just walk away from this one.

You install signs????????? YOU? Or you hire someone?

That'd be fun to watch

jkjk

 

[Circleville Signs]

Coro signs are, by definition, temporary. Whether they are 4mm or 10mm is irrelevant. If the guy wants signs that will last years, you need to get him off his wallet.

4mm, single sided coro, flatbed print, and you just hand him a stack of 4'x4's, and he is responsible for install? Sounds like a good job to me...

 

[J Hill Designs]

why would a banner be more of a sail than a coroplast 4x4?

 

[Locals Find!]

You install signs????????? YOU? Or you hire someone?

That'd be fun to watch

jkjk

Yeah I can install. I only do things on ground level. I don't care much for height. I have done real sign work in my time. I have just learned I would rather broker jobs than deal with many of the headaches of owning my own equipment or continuing working for someone else for a quarter of what I make now.

Coro signs are, by definition, temporary. Whether they are 4mm or 10mm is irrelevant. If the guy wants signs that will last years, you need to get him off his wallet.

4mm, single sided coro, flatbed print, and you just hand him a stack of 4'x4's, and he is responsible for install? Sounds like a good job to me...

Its the price point that I don't like I can't double my money and since I am subbing I have no room for if something goes wrong. I don't like tight margins with no room for error.

why would a banner be more of a sail than a coroplast 4x4?

Because a banner will give more than coro. The coro at least has some rigidity to it. The banner is going to really be beat on hard as the guy installing it will never get it taut enough its going to pull on the outer edges where it will be nailed into 2x4s. If he was using 4x4 posts and wrapping around 3 sides of the post I might say he could pull it off.

 

[FireSprint.com]

However, as always, you want down and dirty, so screen print them, get those green fence posts at Home Depot, wire them fast and bang them into the ground. No holes to dig, no mess, no fuss and wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am…. you‘re done. Each sign would bring you about…. $85 each installed. You’ll make 50% and more on your markup.

That's how I did stuff like this back when we did it. Worked just fine until a windstorm came around. Sometimes, they would last for a year or more here in the Midwest.

 

[Craig Sjoquist]

Banner is alot better looking then a 4mil coro and would hold up better.

7mil might work but think a banner would be less costly not sure at least in shipping it would. be a smaller box, weight not sure about.

10 mil will work but costly shipping compared to banners and 7 mil