Dibond Box signs

[TopFliteGraphics]

One of my customers sent me this to quote with no detail. I have a few ideas on how to build it but I figured I would ask the group what you would do to make these. I make something similar for another client using 1/2" PVC but they are calling for 3mm dibond boxes.

Let me know your ideas. Thanks, Gary

 

[Zendavor Signs]

We would make this out of alum tube and solid alum sheeting. Like a post and panel sign. I assume they are meaning to score cut ACM to bend it and make a “box”. If you are familiar with making them out of PVC, I would just do that. Don’t let customers dictate your processes. You won’t make any money that way.

 

[Billct2]

Since these are "temp" signs I would suggest whatever method is most economical and that you are used to.
But I personally wouldn't use PVC. Probably use .063 aluminum which we would bend in our brake.

 

[Johnny Best]

Get a v cut błade with a track saw and make them with acm real easy.

 

[FlyingSquirrelBrigade]

We've made several of these with 3mm aluminum composite. Do you have the means to make a v groove on these? I'd recommend using one that has a 0.3mm aluminum face so that it doesn't crack when its bent. Usually we v groove cut it on the folds and fold it around some 4x4 posts in the ground. We set the posts first and then measure. This one may be small enough you could fold it all the way around.

 

[tulsagraphics]

We would make this out of alum tube and solid alum sheeting. Like a post and panel sign. I assume they are meaning to score cut ACM to bend it and make a “box”. If you are familiar with making them out of PVC, I would just do that. Don’t let customers dictate your processes. You won’t make any money that way.

^ Exactly this. When customers give you a complete breakdown of materials and such... they're basically trying to keep you from marking things up... and ultimately trying to make you negotiate your own labor costs. It's insulting, really.
If I were you, I'd just quote these guys using your own fab methods (non-itemized), and if they don't like it... they can spend their days trying to find someone willing to work for minimum wage (or less). Trust me, in 30 years, I've dealt with a sh*t ton of cheap azzhats like this.

 

[visual800]

I would male a 3x3 alumminum post frame and skin the faces with .040 or .063 aluminum and paint as shown, no need to wrap aluminum around edges since post would be alumnium....all this wood and dibond material is BS

 

[TopFliteGraphics]

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I would male a 3x3 alumminum post frame and skin the faces with .040 or .063 aluminum and paint as shown, no need to wrap aluminum around edges since post would be alumnium....all this wood and dibond material is BS

That is basically what I was leaning towards with 4x4 aluminum posts since they want the signs to be approximately 4-1/2" deep. easy peasy

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

I agree with visual

 

[Notarealsignguy]

I'd use 4x4 aluminum posts and use a brake with 063 to go up, over and down the front, fasten with a monobolt at the bottom then spray them blue.

 

[JBurton]

I would male a 3x3 alumminum post frame and skin the faces with .040 or .063 aluminum and paint as shown, no need to wrap aluminum around edges since post would be alumnium....all this wood and dibond material is BS

I'd probably go for .090 to skimp on the bottom frame side, and glue it with some Lords. I'd also be tempted to just wrap the whole thing and skip the paint booth.

 

[monroesigns]

^ Exactly this. When customers give you a complete breakdown of materials and such... they're basically trying to keep you from marking things up... and ultimately trying to make you negotiate your own labor costs. It's insulting, really.
If I were you, I'd just quote these guys using your own fab methods (non-itemized), and if they don't like it... they can spend their days trying to find someone willing to work for minimum wage (or less). Trust me, in 30 years, I've dealt with a sh*t ton of cheap azzhats like this.

Or they got this material list and drawing from another sign shop and are shopping around for a better price.

 

[Johnny Best]

50 years ago they woułd say, wełd some angle iron together and brake some 24 ga paint grip steel and attach it. Then paint it. Fołłow the drawings and geterdone.

 

[JBurton]

Fołłow the drawings

Follow?
You mean "Just make it look like the picture!"

 

[gnubler]

Or they got this material list and drawing from another sign shop and are shopping around for a better price.

Looks like it. What exactly is "Oracal"? They offer a large line of products.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

No way. They have staff architects, site planners, engineers and marketing on the payroll. They all are involved in designing these PUDs. It's well within reason that they would include signage design the same as they spec specific mailbox posts and light poles. They want things a certain way so they spell it out to ensure they get exactly what they envisioned. Basic branding.

 

[gnubler]

^^ I worked with a builder who spec'd out all their signage wants for the development. I said NO to the light pole banners after I went and checked out the poles in real life, they were tapered and swayed way too much for a 6 foot vertical banner. The customer sent me all the mockups and they weren't even to scale.

 

[Brandon708]

Based on the measurements. It would seem that they are V grooved ACM signs then screwed to wooden posts. Looks like you can get three of the signs out of a 4x8 sheet with each sign using a 48"x32" panel. I can see that they would make these with V grooves going vertical and then bending them and screwing them to the posts. Probably not the best way as ACM isn't very strong. I would suggest using something like .080 or .063 and aluminum angle with Lord Adhesive to make them. or 6mm ACM.

 

[JBurton]

Looks like you can get three of the signs out of a 4x8 sheet with each sign using a 48"x32" panel.

Actually, with that depth of 4.5", you'll be needing panels at 24.5x34.25, so unless they're aiming for oversized sheets, they'll be restricted to 3 per 4x8. Also you have the width of the tool to contend with...