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I hand sketch pretty loose too and then tighten it up quite a bit because I have better hand control than mouse control... problem with that is I need longer erasers on my pencils. I would occasional get chicken scratch drawing similar to this and I had to interpret them, I sometimes bombed...

I'll give you a quick example... Jack Ripper was looking for a logo, but i never submitted it, while I was going hog wild on the effects, I thought better see how it works with only basic elements... I designed it backwards..... If I designed it in black and white and added the elements, I...

What you should do is, do it in black and white... look at the issues you have, then post it... monochromatic is still using color to either make up for shortcomings, or most likely, attempting to simulate color and not concentrating on the core elements of the design. I myself believe a logo...

There were 3 languages spoken at my house when i was growing up... it's a miracle I can type a semi-coherent sentence...

That is not black and white... it's black white and gray...

Can't you just give me a pill and be done with it...

You would get a job before I could ever.... here is why, I went to FIVE GUYS BURGERS in Temecula and when they called my name, I went to pick up my order and I fell on me arse.. the whole place went quiet... it's the only time I have ever been noticed... I'm one of those guys who needs a make...

With all the cat violence... I thought I better throw in a gato idea on my next page... now I have to get some real work done... :frustrated: ...and yes, that is a moustached pinto bean wearing a sombrero holding a paint brush.

Ticonderoga 2.0

As I take my time dealing with my dilemma, I have taken it upon myself to start working on my websites and in particular, a part of my business that deals with fun design work.... I started doodling like I usually do, but this time for myself. I will probably do a few more pages, but if I can't...

I have actually been thinking about this for a few years.. been so busy taking care of the wife and kids, that it was impossible to work for someone. I do go through phases, but this one has been going on way too long. I'm not into the grass is always greener, but since I crapped on this patch...

Man oh man... you don't know how tempting this is... I had a job offer in Baltimore, but turned it down. It was actually in the project management for signage part of a construction company that deals with larger builds. The east coast is too far away from In N Out, Tommy's and Chis and Pitt's...

Lowballer!, I have a minimum you know... 100 bucks is my discount rate for an endorsement... 25 bucks get you a fist bump and a corndog smiley!

You didn't, they were just having a little fun.... and by the way, in the 10 years i have been reading Doug's post, I have never seen Doug be mean to anyone... ever.. (okay Doug, you can send the 100 bucks to by paypal account)

I felt a tickle, someone used the "t" word...

klaus nomi!

SCOPE OF WORK First you need to make a policy and stick to it... When someone comes in for a layout of any kind, I ask for a logo, if they don't have one, I offer them that service. They don't want one, I try not to "logo-ize" the layout.. it's kinda hard, I know, you are John 'freakin' Deacon...

I'm a little confused, I'm thinking clipping mask might help, but can not figure out what you are talking about....

I'm in a constant state of confusion.. you are all gonna get it!

I thought the idiom was 'Black pots who live in kettles shouldn't be throwing glass houses at stones...'