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1614 nothing prints

yonu

New Member
ok I have made great progress on my 1614 repairs but am not sure if it is the printhead or if I am just missing something.

when it runs a cleaning cycle I can see all colors go through the pump station tubes but when I do a nozzle check or any test prints nothing is deposited on the media.
What should I check next? I have done 2 12hr printhead soaks with fluid from a mutoh cleaning cartridge to get to this point
 

Ssignature

Scott “Not Bob” Steinecke
The head fuse is a nano fuse located on the upper right corner of the main board behind the big black finned heat sinks. It is rated at 750ma. You have to pry it out of the socket to test it, but it sounds like the culprit. Depending on the model of printer, it is either F2 or F3.
 

netsol

Premium Subscriber
There are a coupke versions of the board
there will be minor differences depending onnthe age of the machine
if the hoard is not exactly where ssignature said, ( orcexactly the same style of fuse)you are still on the right track

there will be 40 vdc going through the fuse powering the transistors
 

Ssignature

Scott “Not Bob” Steinecke
All VJs with the exception of the 1604 had replaceable nano fuses. The 1604 used pico fuses soldered to the board. Please see Mutoh Tech bulletin below. With the 1624, the fuses were labeled differently but the locations were mostly the same. See illustration attached. When purchasing replacement fuses, they come mounted in their sockets and must be removed before installation. See photo of actual fuse between my fingers
 

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benski

New Member
i have same problem. mine was printing good until I replaced single damper. Now it will not lay down ink. Station is pulling ink. I replaced head cables and fuses no luck. Then I replaced new head, with new fuses again and it keeps blowing my F3 fuse on main board. 750 ma. Should I focus on CR board on main board? What else can I check ? :notworthy:
 

yonu

New Member
I will let everyone know the outcome hopefully tomorrow the fuses just arrived in the mail today
 

yonu

New Member
ok I am having a very stupid moment where is the mainboard on this model printer I though I had found it but that was the ink control board behind the ink slots
 

yonu

New Member
I got the fuse changed and the original printhead I had replaced when back top printing nothin' but very poor quality black so that I suppose ios a good thing however the replacement printhead I was putting in I get nothing but I noticed that when it cleans it only pulls black and cyan so I am country replacing all the dampers and then try again before replacing the printhead again but I suppose that may be what I get for getting a refurb printhead.
 

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Scott “Not Bob” Steinecke
I got the fuse changed and the original printhead I had replaced when back top printing nothin' but very poor quality black so that I suppose ios a good thing however the replacement printhead I was putting in I get nothing but I noticed that when it cleans it only pulls black and cyan so I am country replacing all the dampers and then try again before replacing the printhead again but I suppose that may be what I get for getting a refurb printhead.
You may have blown the fuse again between head changes. It is VERY sensitive to board and cable connections. Recheck everything
 

yonu

New Member
I think the refurbished printhead keeps blowing the fuse. I am on the fourth fuse, and every time I put on the refurbished printhead, it blows the fuse.
 

Zoogee World

Domed Promotional Product Supplier
By refurbished, hope you don't mean a Aliexpress pick-up, as you get what you pay for from them, never good. That head could have ink or something in the circuitry causing a short which then blows the fuse.
 

yonu

New Member
By refurbished, hope you don't mean a Aliexpress pick-up, as you get what you pay for from them, never good. That head could have ink or something in the circuitry causing a short which then blows the fuse.
Unfortunately I do as that is actually where I got it

I take it i just need to break down and get a new printhead as I have soaked the old printhead twice for about 3days each and can't get more than back black printing I don't even get anything when it pulls for cleaning.
 

Zoogee World

Domed Promotional Product Supplier
Yes, unfortunately, they are too good to believe. We tried some for our Roland at one time as my Boss wanted to save money, but ended up costing us more as one caused more troubles and we ended up in the end paying the extra and getting a genuine head. In all honesty, the price tag looks bigger, but for all the headaches and other issues it can cause, it's worth it to buy OEM heads.
 

yonu

New Member
Yes, unfortunately, they are too good to believe. We tried some for our Roland at one time as my Boss wanted to save money, but ended up costing us more as one caused more troubles and we ended up in the end paying the extra and getting a genuine head. In all honesty, the price tag looks bigger, but for all the headaches and other issues it can cause, it's worth it to buy OEM heads.
Ok guess i gotta spend i was likeing $400 over 2000 so much lol
 

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Scott “Not Bob” Steinecke
In my opinion, as a 40+ year tech, the only reliable places to buy Mutoh parts other than directly from Mutoh ( through B&H) is solventinjet or digiprint. And digiprint has had some issues lately according to customers
 
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