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3M IJ8171 Window Perf.

Discussion in 'Mimaki' started by jaly723, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. jaly723

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    I am having problems with this window perf laying flat on my Mimaki JV33-160. I have already had several head strikes on this material. I believe it is the backing on this material. Is anyone else using this or have had problems with the IJ8171. It's not a heat issue. I have turned the heat down, up and all around and still same issue.
     
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  2. HulkSmash

    HulkSmash Major Contributor

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    Try Oracal.
     
  3. rjssigns

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    Yup. Short term we use Solvex. Never a problem with either one.
     
  4. d fleming

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    I do a LOT of window perf for the liquor industry. Oracal all the way.
     
  5. jaly723

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    Not a big fan of Oracal products. We use mostly 3M products on everything. We just switched to the IJ8171 from the clear focus .
     
  6. J Hill Designs

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    And how is that working for you? Any head strikes?
     
  7. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    My Window Perf is a great product and I guarantee you that if you use it that you will switch to it everytime! 54"x164' $369 for Signs101
     
  8. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Forgive him Pat. He either has not seen Adam's post or has drunk the Kool-Aid.
     
  9. jaly723

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    I have had 3 head strikes. I cant walk away from it while it is printing. I just want to know if anyone else is using this material. I have the heat down low and I am printing on 12 pass, so it takes forever to print windows now. I have to have some heat on this to dry the ink.
     
  10. Charlie J

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    I've used it. Good stuff.
     
  11. jaly723

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    I have printed on high heat all the way to no heat. same buckling issue. it doesnt lay flat on the end of the media where the media guides lay. after a few minutes of printing the media guide veers off the media thus creating the head strikes.
     
  12. J Hill Designs

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    have you tried giving it slack on the roller so it doesnt get tugged when feeding?
     
  13. jaly723

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    ok, what do you think the heat should be set on? and if i have the heat on as low as possible then what about the ink not drying and sticking to the back of the roll when it is rolled up on the take up reel. And Im sure i can roll it out from behind, but I print about 30' at a time and I like to print and do other things in the shop.
     
  14. CheapVehicleWrap

    CheapVehicleWrap Very Active Member

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    Problem #1; 3M
     
  15. jaly723

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    yeah i know a lot of people hate 3M, I havent had any problems out of any of their materials until I bought the IJ8171 window perf.
     
  16. signpost-boston

    signpost-boston Making America great, one sign at a time.

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    even the cheap stuff buckles. are you sure its 3M?
     
  17. HulkSmash

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    They all buckle. Lower the heat.
     
  18. Carl Crabtree

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    Hey Bigfish. I use a lot of perf. We mainly use clear focus. It's rated for 2 years and removes easily after a couple of years. We tried some of Proveer's Chinese crap, but it faded after less than a year and got brittle and had to be scraped off with a lot of elbow grease. How does your perf compare to the clear focus? How long is it rated for?
     
  19. BigfishDM

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    Well I have been selling this perf to some of the biggest shops in the industry for at least 9 years and I am almost positive I have never had a single issue with it. It will give you 2 years outdoors no problem for clean removal. I have seen the Proveer crap and my product is not theirs thats for sure. Give it a shot you wont be dissapointed.
     
  20. Carl Crabtree

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    Thanks Bigfish. I just bought a couple rolls of clear focus, but I'll give u a shout next time I need to order.
     
  21. BigfishDM

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    Sounds good
     
  22. CheapVehicleWrap

    CheapVehicleWrap Very Active Member

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    Everyone has to start somewhere. Have you tried purchasing it already printed?
     
  23. signworldusinc

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    We also stock some high quality window perf. rolls at a competitive price; if you would like, we can send you a few feet of sample material for you to test, the product is rated to last three years minimum outdoor with easy removal. PM me if you are interested.
     
  24. J Hill Designs

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    Try extremely low pre-print (like 20deg) medium print (30-35) and pump the post-print to max heat
     
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