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ADA Hours of Operation Sign Braille Required?

Discussion in 'Fonts and Typography' started by Sign to Go, Jun 28, 2011.

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  1. Sign to Go

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    I have a Hotel client that needs new hours of operation signs for 3 of the Hotels restaurants. Thing is they were sued a few years back by some ADA "Lawyers" that found a bunch of ADA violations, most of which were insignificant, but still it cost then big $ to come into compliance.

    Now they think they need Braille on these hours signs. I called 2 engraving partners, and they said they never heard of this and sat it's not required, But I need documentation.

    I Have been researching this for a couple of hours now and am just going around in circles and just can't get to the the correct citation.

    Can someone head me in the precise direction to find this?

    Really Appreciate this.

    Thanks, Jim
     
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    I'm no ADA expert and the rules have certainly changed here recently, but I'd reference this part of it:

    216.3 Directional and Informational Signs. Signs that provide direction to or information about interior spaces and facilities of the site shall comply with 703.5.

    703.5.5 shows the text size and information required for non-braille type signs.

    To me, it looks like if it's between 40-70 inches from the floor and being viewed from 72 inches away or closer, then the letters need to be 5/8" tall and it's not a braille required sign.

    I'm sure someone else can tell you more, but that's my read on it.
     
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    How do you get documentation on something that is not required? There is no documentation that I know of saying that hours of operation are NOT required.

    For an hour of operation sign to be made ADA requirement would require a sizable sign. So large that it would be noticeable at every business entry.
     
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    my understanding of ADA requirements were that they needed to aid in the function of the disabled to identify restrooms, stairwells, elevators, and room numbers.

    hours of operation? highly doubtful.
    even the name of the esablishment isn't required in braille lettering, which I've always found odd, but whatever.
     
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    I've never even seen EXIT as an ADA sign, which i've also found odd.
     
  7. Sign to Go

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    Thanks Guys so far. There's so much in the ADA manual, I just want to cite the section that will describe when Braille is or is not required.

    Jim
     
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    You will soon I think, wasn't that added in the new revised code that is in place now?
     
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    I've never seen the ADA exit signs either, but I thought I read it in the new code, but it's been months since I read that, so I wasn't sure.
     
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    Received masg from "The Source"

    Thanks for helping Guys! Had to persue this....But now I have my documentation.


    Mr. Clinton,
    The new 2010 ADA Standard for Accessible Design states the following in the scoping chapter:
    216.2 Designations. Interior and exterior signs identifying permanent rooms and spaces shall comply with 703.1, 703.2, and 703.5. Where pictograms are provided as designations of permanent interior rooms and spaces, the pictograms shall comply with 703.6 and shall have text descriptors complying with 703.2 and 703.5.
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    216.3 Directional and Informational Signs. Signs that provide direction to or information about interior spaces and facilities of the site shall comply with 703.5.
    (See: http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm#c2.)

    Section 703.2 requires raised characters, braille, and a specific mounting height and location. Section 703.5 contains only visual requirements. The sign you reference is an informational sign that would need to comply with 703.5 only.
    I hope this helps.
    Regards,

    Jim Pecht
    Accessibility Specialist
    U.S. Access Board
     
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