Some thread fairly recently (perhaps from classified) I saw Alps printer being discussed for printing on vinyl. I had noticed that the Zero Nine ribbons looked very much like the Alps, so I figured I would experiment using my old Alps. I used the Alps ribbon on some High Tack vinyl (customer wanted to stick on plastic motorcross gas tank) and it printed ok. I overlaminated it (the print was not robust from a scratch off stand point). Anyway, I asked my supplier about the Zero Nine ribbons to run in the Alps, and he said that they were different (resin vs. wax). So what do you guys running vinyl through the Alps use? I don't have the bucks for a Gerber and it is getting tough to find the Alps ribbons.