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Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Joe Diaz, Dec 18, 2008.

  1. Joe Diaz

    Joe Diaz Very Active Member

    I'm getting a new system here shortly. The tech guy here said we could try going with AMD instead of Intel. The last time I had an AMD system was about 7 years ago. So Techies??? are they good processors? They seem to cost less in side by side comparisons.

  2. Baz

    Baz Very Active Member

  3. jiarby

    jiarby Major Contributor

    Feb 11, 2007
    Isn't this thread from 2 months ago?? That chart says it all.
  4. Joe Diaz

    Joe Diaz Very Active Member

    I did a search and didn't see one from 2 months ago that answered my question, and figuring how technology changes pretty quickly, I thought I'd ask today. I know that their are faster intels out there but alot of those faster intels are also not within my budget. My question was, does AMD make a quality product? Does anyone have issues with theirs? I have a system with one at home from 2001 and it still runs good, but has the quality of this brand diminished since then.

  5. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    i have never owned an INTEL POWERED DESKTOP!!!! and been buildin em since 486DX days....
  6. sarge

    sarge Active Member

    Oct 18, 2008
    as i see it you will find those people who will say amd is the best and others will say intel .. i have 5 computers in my shop .. some kinda old .. a couple real new .. 3 of them i built myself .. i personally think the amd's are more reliable .. the weak link i think is software .. so my rule of thumb is this .. look at the cpu and mainboard performance graph .. where the price falls sharply it is just at the bottom where i buy .. normally the difference is 4-5 months and minimul clock speed difference .. also i would look at hdd speed and ram speed .. you could have the best mother (main) board and cpu but if your ram and hdd are boat anchors then that is where your performance will be .. i spend my money in HDD, RAM, Video then i worry about the cpu and motherboard .. and remember, dont buy 1 hdd get 2 .. easier for backups and file storage .. i will not buy a motherboard that has built in video and audio
  7. TresL

    TresL Very Active Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    AMD's here.

    I have built my own PC's for the last 18 years.
  8. Shovelhead

    Shovelhead Major Contributor

    Dec 5, 2003
    sailboat or powerboat
    cats or dogs
    beer or mixed drink
    chocolate or vanilla
    Fred or Ethel
  9. THATgirl

    THATgirl Very Active Member

    Sep 16, 2003
    george clooney or danny divito

    my son has built a few computers for me using AMDs
  10. sarge

    sarge Active Member

    Oct 18, 2008
    sh^t or shine-o-la
  11. Rodi

    Rodi Very Active Member

    Aug 3, 2007
    So Joe,
    you're not getting a MAC, they only have INTEL chips. (I can't help it!!)

    AMD makes good stuff. Competition is good too for the chip industry.
  12. TresL

    TresL Very Active Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    here's another one for Shovel...

    Paint or Print... :)
  13. jhaala

    jhaala Member

    Jan 25, 2008
    AMD processors got passed up by Intel quite awhile ago. I would stay away until they make something faster.

    Here is a good current processor benchmark list:

    You won't find very many AMD's anywhere near the top.
  14. SignsOfMaine

    SignsOfMaine Member

    Nov 10, 2008
    I've been tooling around with computers for a while as a tutor and a tech and I've found no difference in terms of day to day use. Picking one over the other isn't going to give you twice as many blue screens of death and illegal operations or anything. A system's 'stability' is 99.9 percent what you load it with, not the chipset.

    That being said, intel is clearly on the leading edge in terms of speed. They are set to release the next generation of processors within the year, which will have the smallest process (circuitry) ever... which means more can be packed onto a single chip which means it can do more stuff + faster. AMD's like a year behind in their technology.

    You buy intel if you can afford it, or if you're doing the kind of things where you are willing to pay to cut down on how long you wait for adobe [whatever] to load. If you're not doing much with a computer other than surfing and spreadsheets, then by all means go with AMD and save that dolla~
  15. choucove

    choucove Active Member

    Feb 25, 2008
    In most all the computer systems I've built through the past ten years, I've found hands down that the AMD systems ran not only more smoothly than the Intel systems I've worked with, but have also had a longer lifespan.

    But, as stated above numerous times, technology changes fast today. Yes, today Intel offers the fastest processors available, but at a much higher premium cost than processors from AMD. In your normal day-to-day work you would not see a difference really in the speed performance in an Intel or AMD processor anyways, that really only shines in high performance gaming and the likes. To say you want to buy Intel just because you think it will run your applications faster is in many ways false: There are many factors that make things run faster or more smoothly, and a difference of a few Mhz on your processor will not be noticeable in much of anything. If you want your applications to load faster, you're better to buy faster hard drives and put them in a RAID 0, along with more memory.

    For those interested, it is said that the newest AMD Phenom X4 II (45 nm fabrication) will be released for sale TODAY. These processors have had some early benchmarking that shows they are very capable and will be a real rival to Intel. However, that being said, these new processors really are designed for the best performance in the upcoming Socket AM3 motherboards, which should be released relatively soon such as March or April.

    But just to give you a comparison, the lowest priced Intel quad-core processor (Core 2 Quad Q6600) is currently priced around $185.00, and the cheapest new Nehalem Core i7 processor is currently priced around $300.00, the flagship of AMD, the Phenom 9850 X4 processor is cheaper than the cheapest Intel at around $180.00.

    And if you are really interested in the best deal, here is the newest AMD processor to market TODAY, a 45 nm processor with stock clock speeds of 3 Ghz quad core, at the same price as Intel's cheapest Core i7 with clock speeds of 2.66 Ghz.

    To end my rant (I do apologize!) it all really does come down to personal preference. But there are many reasons why top-brand names from Dell to HP to Alienware all began configuring AMD systems using the Phenom processors in addition to Intel processors: It's the most cost-effective system possible. I've never really been upset with an AMD system that I've worked with. But then again, there are many others that will also swear by their Intel systems.