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An interesting morning, thats for sure.

showcase 66

New Member
My morning has be a little odd today. Not in a bad way just weird.

First, I was at the golf course at 6 (always a good thing) with my two oldest boys for their golf tournament. One got 3rd one got 5th in there age division.

When I was leaving, a friend of mine stopped me to tell me someone was looking for me but thought he had left.

Drop the kids off and get to the office and there is a gentleman in a suit waiting for me. Never seen the guy before, but he knew who I was. Creepy when he asked about a few things back when I was working as a civil engineer.

Turned out he was the son of an owner that I worked on a huge project with about 8 years ago. Right about the time I was really getting irritated with my job.

He came to find me because his father has kept my card since we finished the project and they wanted to offer me a job to come work for them. Completely out of the blue. The last time I spoke with this guys father, I thought I was going to end up going to jail or lose a multi-million dollar account. Basically he asked me to fudge some numbers on a somethings and I wouldn't do it. Dug my feet in and wouldnt let him push all over me. My boss at the time was kinda leaning on the clients side and I was not going to have my name on something that if failed was due to the fact it was constructed off my calcs. I hated how money hungry developers just want to save money and put others at risk.

Anyways, I finished the project the way I designed with all my calcs and legal. That was about 2 months after my last encounter with this guy. I refused to speak with him after that.

After explaining who this guy was that was in my office, he asked if he could make a quick call while we were talking. He handed the phone to me saying that someone from his office would like to speak to me.

It was his father and before I could really say anything which was going to basically nothing but just hang up. He says, I just wanted to let you know that I have more respect for you and the way you handled me a few years back than I have for anyone that has ever worked for me.

That caught me off guard, (They hadn't offered me a job at this point) and I didn't really know what to say. We talked on the phone for about 20 mins as his son sat there just looking at me.(again creepy). As I was just about to get off the phone, He says "I want you to come work for me on my next project. Now give the phone to my son"

I hand over the phone and his son just listens and then hangs up and gets up and says he will be right back.

Comes in with a packet and hands it to me. My father wants you to look this over and he will be back in contact with you next week. Told him I have been out of the engineering world for a while now, and I am not sure how much help I could be right now. Plus I have my own business now and I really love what I do. He says just keep it whether you open it or not is up to you, but I was told to give it to you.

He left just after that.

Called my wife up to tell her what was going on. She said I should open it and see what they want.

Some days I do miss the engineering, calculations, and design that goes into the projects. I loved doing it but my stress level was always high, and I was on medication for high blood pressure. Along with other medical issues that seemed to go away after I left that world. 2 months after leaving I was off the blood pressure meds and I was/am a lot happier.

I dont think I want to go back to feeling like that again but I still have the intrigue of what this project is going to be.

It would be a guaranteed 3 years possibly 4 -5 year long project. Project will not start until October and I don't have to answer him until September. I just dont know right now. Part of me wishes I wouldn't have opened that packet now.

I am not asking what I should do on this thread. Obviously it will be my decision. Just want to get some input from the s101 family.

I am curious to know if you were in the same situation what you would do.
 

wildside

New Member
you left that line of work for a reason, dipping back into a bag for a second bite usually bites you in the ***

if the guy asked me to break the law and then years later apologizes and says he respects me and then offers me a job, no brainer, answer is no.

but nothing that interesting ever happens in my little corner of the world.....
 

rjssigns

Active Member
The money is not where it is at. Being in control over your life is. The mere fact you are questioning the choice should be a clue. My life has markedly improved since I no longer punch a clock.
Would your new boss allow you to be out on the links with your boys on a Friday?
Talk it over with the family then make a simple Pro/Con list. When you put it on paper important decisions usually become self-evident.
 
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mopar691

New Member
Personal feelings aside you did state you miss that type of work and loved doing it.

Was the stress level from the bad interaction with him or the work in general?

Either way it will be a tough decision on your part.

What ever way you choose to go I hope you do not look back years from now and wish you would of gone the other way.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
My dad always deals with this so often. He stopped practicing law a good bit ago and was just general council to one company. Every so often he wanted to go back and practice law.

Well that was all fine and good in theory then went he would go and have a couple of projects for a client or two he would quickly remember why he got out of law. Also at this stage he wants to do what he wants to do.

Remember why you got out and see if it's worth getting back in despite those reasons.
 

showcase 66

New Member
Personal feelings aside you did state you miss that type of work and loved doing it.

Was the stress level from the bad interaction with him or the work in general?

Either way it will be a tough decision on your part.

What ever way you choose to go I hope you do not look back years from now and wish you would of gone the other way.


I do miss it sometimes. Mainly when I am talking with a couple of buddies who are still working in the field and I get to help out with them sometimes.

For the stress. Everything I signed off on comes back to me. So if I overlook one thing and it failed, I am responsible. One guy I worked with had a large wall collapse because he miss calculated one thing. He ended up losing his license and faced charges for negligence. The wall crushed 2 kids and 3 adults killing a 4 of them.

So for stress, having this kind of thing in the back of your mind is not comforting. I always had my boss sign over my stuff to cover my *** for that.

The stress of owning your own business is no where comparable to me.

This is and I love what I am doing now are the main reasons I havent gone back in the past.

However, the money and the notoriety of the project is very very tempting. Just being apart of this project could be very beneficial to me in the future but I dont know if I want to sign up for potentially 5 years working on it.
 

Billct2

Active Member
Is it worth throwing over what you have built in your business?
I mean if it is a significant difference in income, and has a limited time frame
maybe it's worth it. But you will be starting from scratch if you go back.
Also I'd do some background investigation on this guy, why is he coming back to you after all these years? In the sign business it usually means they've burned every other shop in the area and are now back to where they started.
 

showcase 66

New Member
Also I'd do some background investigation on this guy, why is he coming back to you after all these years? In the sign business it usually means they've burned every other shop in the area and are now back to where they started.

I was going to contact the couple of engineers I know he has used in the past and see what they say.

Honestly the money is what is making it the most intriguing. But then again, I walked away from a 100k+ job 8 years ago to do what I am doing now. Sounds kinda crazy and I have some friends that think I am still nuts for leaving it.
 

ProWraps

New Member
if i only made $100k owning my own business, i would jump out a window and slit my throat on the way down...

if you got burned by this guy once, with something as potentially dangerous that could cause death and or charges, i would keep myself warm by the fire with the "packet".
 

Locals Find!

New Member
Think about your kids future. If the 5 year project will benefit them greatly on all fronts, you spending time with them included, do it. If it won't well then don't do it.

You only get to live your life once and your kids carry on when your gone. Just think about how you want them to remember you.

I had a similar choice here recently when offered the job working for my mother. I did it to provide my kids a better life and a better home. Where they could feel safe, and have fun growing up. If not for them I wouldn't be punching the clock (even though I do enjoy the work, I miss the freedom of choice to go goofing off at 2pm if I felt like it).

Good Luck in whatever path you take. Let us know how it works out.
 

premiercolour

Merchant Member
it got us all thinking the past opportunities. Isn't it?

100k was eight years ago. I am sure it is past 200k now. lol 200k, good life style and everything else but spending time with the family on a friday morning - priceless.
 

Northern Design

Northern Design Graphics
work on parts of the project as contract labor only. (enjoy the work) If you find its not for you anymore for any reason you can decline accepting the next phase with no hard feelings and you have no regrets, they must agree to these terms or you need to walk away. If you have to seek outside opinions - your interested
best of luck
 
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