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Avery certified? Good or bad?
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ExecuPrintGS
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Had a former co-worker I keep in touch with take it. He said they had 3 different vehicles they showed techniques on, class work, shop work and exam. Exam you got a section of one of the vehicles and had x amount of time to complete the section. They judged completeness and how well it was done. Also a cut test. They laid 2 pieces of vinyl one on the other and had you just cut the top layer.
He took a ton away from it, though he didn't pass the cert. test.
good luck, I was very jealous he got to go, sounds like he learned a lot and said it was worth it.
He took a ton away from it, though he didn't pass the cert. test.
good luck, I was very jealous he got to go, sounds like he learned a lot and said it was worth it.
Kentucky Wraps
Kentucky Wraps
Learning techniques from experienced professionals in your trade is ALWAYS a good thing. Take what you like from it and leave the rest. Certification only helps in the eyes of potential customers and NEVER hurts you.
I see no cons to it...only Pros.
PS...Justin Pate has plenty of experience and a lot to offer as far as technique.
I see no cons to it...only Pros.
PS...Justin Pate has plenty of experience and a lot to offer as far as technique.
+1
Hands on is way better then youtube training :Big Laugh
Also, It is a good chance for you to also ask any questions you have built up from previous installs. Justin just finished a tour here in Australia, although i couldnt get to one of his sessions myself, they were booked out really quick and the feedback was also really good. I would jump at the chance to get over there and do a certification by him!
johnnysigns
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Justin has something to offer for most skill levels. I'd say it's worth alone in what you get by way of concessions just to take the class. I never bothered with the certification, but I thought if/when you did pass you ended right on carwraps.net as an Avery trained wrap provider: http://carwraps.net/directory/Vehicle-Wraps/paint-replacement-paint-wraps/
the graphics co
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I did the certification testing last year, for the price you can't beat it, when i took the class they gave you (shipped to your shop) 25yds of either sw900 or 1005 w/1360 laminate, your choice, as well as a bunch of tools. I took one of my installers to the class, and took the certification on my own. There are a lot of things you can learn that you would never think about otherwise. Justin Pate is an excellent teacher and i would recommend the class to anyone.
ProWraps
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i look at it like this.
if i get the chance to hire a qualified installer for a job and he is good and i am good, we both share techniques that each other didnt know.
anytime you can be around other installers that are good at what they do, if you pick up one, or maybe two or three new techniques that make you faster and/or better. its a good day.
i would say if you can afford it and want to go do it, do it. enjoy it. make good contacts, learn a few things, show a few things and come away a better installer than you were when you went into it.
win/win. we can as humans only do and think so much. its when we get into groups of like minded individuals that we thrive.
Kentucky Wraps
Kentucky Wraps
LOL I just did a 1 day "advanced supreme wrap Training" focused on "Paint Wraps" with Justin via Avery. Reason....
$250 which included $700 worth of Material...no brainer for me.
$250 which included $700 worth of Material...no brainer for me.
ProWraps
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yeah i heard you get a bunch of stuff that easily makes up for the initial cost.
just curious on the training part...
how was it? that seems to me like a great class to take with all the color change and chrome calls we get but turn down because im not really focused on the color change stuff.
would be interesting to learn some good techniques and start mining these jobs.
just curious on the training part...
how was it? that seems to me like a great class to take with all the color change and chrome calls we get but turn down because im not really focused on the color change stuff.
would be interesting to learn some good techniques and start mining these jobs.
Pat Whatley
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While I completely agree that any training is a good thing and constantly learning how to be better is one of the keys to success the "certification" thing has always been curious to me.
Who really cares about an Avery certification? 3M I understand simply because of brand recognition but Avery? or Fellers? If you really think a certification is pulling in customers can't you just certify yourself? Is any potential customer going to take the time to look up what exactly the difference is between 3M Certified, Avery Certified, and Signs 101 Certified? To me it just seems like another "Member BBB, Member Chamber of Commerce, Member Downtown Business Association" sticker in the shop window.
So tell me, am i missing something? I'm not arguing, I'm actually asking.
Charlie J
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We just took the same class in Cincinnati. It was a good time.
ProWraps
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as far as what interests me in any of these programs is the knowledge gained from being around some of the other great installers in the industry. if nothing more than to go and learn a thing here or two, for the price paid, its money well spent.
Pat Whatley
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That I understand completely.
Seano32
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Here is my 2 cents on Avery certification. I am both 3m preferred and Avery certified. I found the 3m testing to be more challenging and having more value for the installer. I went for the just the avery test and out of 12 "installers" there only three of us passed and I personally completed the course in 3 hours verse 3m test was two days and you had to have an 80% or higher average on all tests to pass.
The 3m preferred has gotten me more leads and jobs than avery ever has. Justin Pate is a great installer and if you can spend some time talking with him you will find he spends more time overseas installing different types of vinyl more often than Avery.
The 3m preferred has gotten me more leads and jobs than avery ever has. Justin Pate is a great installer and if you can spend some time talking with him you will find he spends more time overseas installing different types of vinyl more often than Avery.