Awesome!

[slappy]

If i had something like that i'd probably smoke more. That was another reason i didn't like cartons. I'd either smoke too much or waste them by tossing them early cause i knew i had more.

The saving is good Fred, but you'll save a little more by quitting with me also

 

[CheapVehicleWrap]

Yes Fred. I get it a mile away. $8 a pack a few times a day was getting me a little upset. In reality I'm secretly waiting for them to tax the hell out of this so I can quit. And you know that tax is coming. In the mean time it seems too good to be true. Think of all the money we could have saved over the years.

Are you updating that banner every post?

 

[Fred Weiss]

Yes Fred. I get it a mile away. $8 a pack a few times a day was getting me a little upset. In reality I'm secretly waiting for them to tax the hell out of this so I can quit. And you know that tax is coming. In the mean time it seems too good to be true. Think of all the money we could have saved over the years.

It's certainly a possibility. At that point I will join the shift to buying tobacco leaves or growing my own. Whole leaves are treated as an agricultural product and are not subject to federal taxation. There are lots of folks at online forums to share the ins and outs of getting good results.

 

[Kentucky Wraps]

Question:
I despise that group. But aren't hate groups protected in the United States of America?
They expressing joy about deaths but are not telling any person or group in particular to kill. They are interpreting God's word in a manner that they believe says he takes joy in deaths. Do they not have the freedom to believe that?
The second they publicly call for anybody to die at mans hand is when they cross the line and should be arrested immediately.
They are fringe, extreme, hateful, crass etc but do they have that right?

 

[Mike F]

Question:
I despise that group. But aren't hate groups protected in the United States of America?
They expressing joy about deaths but are not telling any person or group in particular to kill. They are interpreting God's word in a manner that they believe says he takes joy in deaths. Do they not have the freedom to believe that?
The second they publicly call for anybody to die at mans hand is when they cross the line and should be arrested immediately.
They are fringe, extreme, hateful, crass etc but do they have that right?

They're technically not classified as a hate group at the moment. Anonymous did get an online petition going on whitehouse.gov to have them classified as one, as well as another petition to remove their tax-exempt status. They both well exceeded the 15K signatures that make the White House obligated to give an official answer to them, but as far as I know nothing has been said or decided yet. They did respond to the Death Star petition a few days ago so I'm guessing we'll hear something about it eventually. Unfortunately it is protected speech either way. Though I do find it funny even the KKK has said they want nothing to do with them.

WBC is terrified by anonymous! I personally hate Fred Phelps. They were suppose to do something here before when we had a death of a soldier overseas, but they never showed. I had 4x4 "Puck Fhelps" signs ready too and the whole county was trying to be a shield for the family.
Anonymous has been campaigning against WBC for abusing freedom of speech for a few years now and just revamped after they announced that they were going to picket the candle light vigil after the shootings at Sandy Hook.

Now it's OPAngel for Aaron Swartz. Westboro was going to picket that funeral but didn't show after PLF & anon posted a threat so now are trying to pass a Aaron’s Law to change the CFAA law. You can commit manslaughter and get less time served then what he was looking at, the government killed him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_kjGuIQeII
(you can see the steubenville files for PLF and anon too on that link btw)

I absolutely LOVE those videos they put out. They send chills up my spine while putting a huge grin on my face. Watched the counter-protest for the Friday funeral the week after Sandy Hook happened as it went down via a live video stream and Twitter and it was unreal how many people showed up, not just anons but everyone from ordinary citizens to firefighters and cops to a bunch of badass biker dudes, had to be at least 100 people there just from what I could see on the stream. Honestly couldn't tell how many anons were in the crowd because they were asked by the parents not to wear the masks in case they scared the kids, but there were quite a few tweeting live photos. They were saying Westboro was parked nearby but never actually showed up. It was honestly one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life watching all those people out there supporting those poor families and seeing it all happen live. I could literally just feel all the love.

I also really hope they're able to get the CFAA changed, it's totally ridiculous. Aaron's story is truly a sad one and a real reminder of how far the dinosaurs in the government have their heads up their sphincters regarding technology and information. I hate to admit that I only just heard about the whole thing when news broke that he committed suicide, but from what I've read he was a brilliant guy, an internet pioneer and a passionate activist whose only real crime was writing a script to automatically download a ton of academic papers, then hiding a laptop on the MIT campus, starting the script, and then leaving it there where it was found by staff. Was he technically stealing? Yea, maybe he was. But is it right to throw a thief in prison longer than you throw a murderer or rapist in prison? In my opinion, that's so far from being right that calling it wrong would be a severe understatement.

/endrants

...one last thing, where'd all this cigarette talk come from? And speak of the devil, I need one after typing all that...

 

[Fred Weiss]

...one last thing, where'd all this cigarette talk come from? And speak of the devil, I need one after typing all that...

It started with slapakiss's thread about quitting and continued because of the signature statement about it.

 

[slappy]

.... sorry... maybe i shouldn't have added my little ticker. I was wanting to keep trac my progress. Sorry it turned to a

Pat - please take a few hits for me. I'll exhale with you a few times also on my drive home stay warm my friend... that's one thing i'm definitely not missing right now.....

 

[Mike F]

.... sorry... maybe i shouldn't have added my little ticker. I was wanting to keep trac my progress. Sorry it turned to a

Pat - please take a few hits for me. I'll exhale with you a few times also on my drive home stay warm my friend... that's one thing i'm definitely not missing right now.....

No worries, I didn't even see and still don't see whatever it was that brought the smoking discussion up, either way though if it helps you then more power to ya, hell I've got a heart condition and take 2 different heart medications daily and that still hasn't been enough to get me to quit. Cut down, yes, but quit... can't even fathom it. Doesn't help that I'm dealing with a lot and have been since the end of the summer but I suppose that's no excuse to keep derailing my health either.

On topic... come on people, I think we've finally found something we can actually all agree on! We should all be embroiled in a "2 minute hate"-like session of disgust and rage! :ROFLMAO: Can you tell this topic gets me all fired up yet?

 

[noregrets]

Mike, I just checked out that 'steubenville files anonymous localleaks' that you suggested and ended up watching the video that the sick $%#$%# made.

I dont think I have ever felt the sick/angry feeling as strong as I just did. The douche seems oblivious to the fact that she is a human being. I am just dumbfounded.

I tell you what, if that was my daughter that dude would be needing to hide pretty damn fast....... In fact I feel like flying over to the states and tracking the SOB down.....

What the hell is this world coming too....... Good on anonymous, long may they continue..