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Banner material on Latex HP 260 - Someone tell me what i am doing wrong.

SignProPlus-Chip

SignProPlus-Chip

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I have tried several different profiles for 13 oz banner material, matte finish and everything looks like this:

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I have tried all kinds of combinations of passes, heat, etc...

This particular one here was 600 DPI 10 pass I beleive a profile for Zeelon Matte banner

Its far too light, I am getting no saturation at all...any tips from experience latex printer people?

EDIT: I just checked the media. Looks like my supplier sent me CORAL from US Banner instead of what I requested. Can Coral even be printed on a latex?
 

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AF

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Clean your pinch rollers. They have crap on them from the cheap banner material. Also clean the banner material as its plasticizer has migrated to the surface and is contaminating the pinch roller. You can run about 30 feet of cheap engineer paper to clean the rollers rather than pull them out and wipe off. The paper will eventually absorb the chemicals. I have yet to find a reliable banner for the 260 so I don't bother with it.
 
SignProPlus-Chip

SignProPlus-Chip

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Everything is 100% clean, the printer is new and this is the first banner material we have run through it.

With that said, after reading online it looks like the US Banner stuff is solvent only. We just loaded a wider roll of Ultraflex and it's printing like a dream under the same profile.

Verdict: Incompatible material.



AF said:
Clean your pinch rollers. They have crap on them from the cheap banner material. Also clean the banner material as its plasticizer has migrated to the surface and is contaminating the pinch roller. You can run about 30 feet of cheap engineer paper to clean the rollers rather than pull them out and wipe off. The paper will eventually absorb the chemicals. I have yet to find a reliable banner for the 260 so I don't bother with it.
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dypinc

dypinc

New Member
SignProPlus-Chip said:
Everything is 100% clean, the printer is new and this is the first banner material we have run through it.

With that said, after reading online it looks like the US Banner stuff is solvent only. We just loaded a wider roll of Ultraflex and it's printing like a dream under the same profile.

Verdict: Incompatible material.
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UltraFlex, you kidding right? I never had anything but problems with Ultraflex.
 
MachServTech

MachServTech

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Simple test.

Is there a surface contaminant such as plasticisers?> (makes the material flexible, but can sometimes "sweat out" as the material ages)

Take some rubbing alcohol (isopropyl).

Roll out a few feet of your banner. Clean 1/2 of the banner with alcohol. Leave the other half.

Draw a line with the marker to divide if you wish.

re roll, load, print a solid full width.

check.

If there is a marked difference then you have plasticisers on that roll.
 
Graphic Destruction

Graphic Destruction

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If n glantz is an option in your area, try their bebanner house brand banner . It's cheap, but the only brand I could get consistent, quality print from in our latex. And it's cheap, which is exactly what you want in a banner.
 
eahicks

eahicks

Magna Cum Laude - School of Hard Knocks
Yep....there's been whole threads on this....Ultraflex is crap for Latex. BeBanner works awesome, as well as Advantage's Optima banners (probably the same manufacturer).
 
Quark

Quark

Merchant Member
Graphic Destruction said:
If n glantz is an option in your area, try their bebanner house brand banner . It's cheap, but the only brand I could get consistent, quality print from in our latex. And it's cheap, which is exactly what you want in a banner.
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are you able to print bebanner is less than 10 pass @ bi, 600dpi?
 
Graphic Destruction

Graphic Destruction

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Quark said:
are you able to print bebanner is less than 10 pass @ bi, 600dpi?
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I rarely ran less than 10 or 12 passes, but we weren't looking for speed, we wanted great print quality. I'm sure you can, I just never personally did it.

N. Glantz will get you a sample roll to try out, just ask.
 
eahicks

eahicks

Magna Cum Laude - School of Hard Knocks
I run all BeBanner on 8 pass, bi-directional 600, low ink. 10 or 12 pass takes too long and frankly most banners don't need to be run that high. I think even a lot of people run 6 pass for banners, but I seem to get some banding at that low.
 
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