Banner question

[Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?]

So I got some 18 oz. white blockout banners from U.S Banner Corp. I noticed on the tag it says "For best results do not use application fluid and use a high performance vinyl". Any opinions on this? I'm doing a simple, straight forward, black on white lettering design. I was planning on using Oracal 651 for the lettering. It would seem to me that using something better than 6 year vinyl on a banner would be pointless. Also, I've always used application fluid in the past on heavyweight banners from U.S. Banner, never had a problem, and to my recollection there was never this warning on the label. Is there any reason why these would be any different? I have some stock 10 oz. banners in the shop and their packaging does not include that warning either and they are manufactured by U.S. Banner Corp.

 

[Jackpine]

I see no need to use HP vinyl on a banner. I use 13 ounce material for everything. Keeps things simple. 651 will do fine on banners. Roll them with the image side out for shipping or storage.

 

[Gino]

Don't see a need for it either, but if you're not going to heed manufacturer's warnings, don't come back crying should something go wrong.

Furthermore, why do you need application fluid to put down graphics on a banner, anyway ??

 

[Billct2]

We do dry app on most everything.
I do use cast vinyl on long term banners (like interior championship banners) or exterior banners that are reused every year.
Most banners calendered is fine.

 

[MikePro]

read into the label a bit more.... "for best results yadda yadda" doesn't mean "do/ do not yadda yadda"

 

[Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?]

Don't see a need for it either, but if you're not going to heed manufacturer's warnings, don't come back crying should something go wrong.

Furthermore, why do you need application fluid to put down graphics on a banner, anyway ??

I won't come back crying. I just wondered if there was something different about the heavyweight banners from the ones I've got in the past. I applied the vinyl dry on one today before I left work and it worked perfectly. I've done them wet in the past and they've always worked out for me since I was working on them by myself. Now that I have a partner to help out it seems pretty easy to apply them dry. We did a 2' x 6' tonight in 2 or 3 minutes with not one bubble.

I'd have to say I certainly do lack experience so I appreciate the suggestions. I've been doing vinyl for just over a year. Being an artist, I really want to get into other areas of sign making but vinyl seems like sort of an entry level thing as I build experience in these other areas. However, the learning curve with vinyl increases with the size of the project, I've definitely learned that. It's not as easy as it looks in some cases, and there are certainly many tricks to the trade. Thanks for the sound advice.

 

[Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?]

I see no need to use HP vinyl on a banner. I use 13 ounce material for everything. Keeps things simple. 651 will do fine on banners. Roll them with the image side out for shipping or storage.

Thanks for the tip on storage. A little advice can go a long way and save a ton of headache.

 

[ProWraps]

install it. DRY. period.