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Notarealsignguy

Arial - it's almost helvetica
links to avoid:
- make your penis 5x bigger pills
- sexy ladies in your local town ready to get down
- free money
- your computer has a virus link that is making siren effects and flashing like a 2000's disco.
- stick to well known p0rn sites like p0rnhub.
Without these, what the hell is the point of the internet?
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
OK i lied, i continued to respond, but, this is really a serious issue, for any client with REAL cash flow.
i don't want to sell you anything, i am PRACTICALLY out of that business. we have a closed practice and haven't pursued additional clients in over 10 years.

if the impact of an attack would be an interruption of your porn watching or playing of video games, then i am over reacting. otherwise think about serious protection

See, you'll get more people's attention if we know THAT is the outcome you're trying to prevent.
 

netsol

Active Member
See, you'll get more people's attention if we know THAT is the outcome you're trying to prevent.
it has been well over 20 years since our first experience with ransomware
a longtime client got it & it was the first time i heard the word

he called me and said "i am locked out of my files, they want $500. (he was locked out of 28,000 client records & had no access to AP [how much people owed him] )how do i know i will get my files back if i pay

i pointed out it is much like if you or your wife is kidnapped. no one can say whether you will get your files back, HOWEVER i am pretty damn sure what will happen if you don't pay
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
As someone who also works in IT, my primary job is CyberSecurity for a medical company. I personally use ESET for my home network. I'm pretty happy with that. My other job really likes SentinelOne. Both are AI driven, meaning the program learns what to block. things like Norton and McAfee, Symantec, and Kaspersky, do not have AI driven features, they are more response oriented only and only protect on known problems.

I am responsible for the security of over 10k machines.
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
I would use trend micro, or, failing that, hold my nose and use norton

a consultant friend recommended bitdefender. i asked him if he misunderstood the question. too often the choice is made based on which product a company makes the most on, not safety of the client

these days, with all the ransomware, etc it is more than irresponsible to recommend a bad product, it is practically criminal

windows defender with malwarebytes
windows defender is utter garbage, malwarbytes is great for malware but i would not trust it to handle all my AV issues.
 

netsol

Active Member
As someone who also works in IT, my primary job is CyberSecurity for a medical company. I personally use ESET for my home network. I'm pretty happy with that. My other job really likes SentinelOne. Both are AI driven, meaning the program learns what to block. things like Norton and McAfee, Symantec, and Kaspersky, do not have AI driven features, they are more response oriented only and only protect on known problems.

I am responsible for the security of over 10k machines.
not sure if it is still the case, but the british do not allow kapersky to be used on government devices
they recognize a bunch of russian hackers, masquerading as an antivirus company for what they are.
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
not sure if it is still the case, but the british do not allow kapersky to be used on government devices
they recognize a bunch of russian hackers, masquerading as an antivirus company for what they are.
yeah I really hate Kapersky. one of the worst AV softwares I have ever used, right up there with Norton and McCrappy.
 

netsol

Active Member
are you familiar with the john mcaffee stories?
i have a friend who competed with john for his first big government contract.
john was bat s**t crazy

in Belize the police say his next door neighbor killed his dogs.
he hired a hit man to torture/kill the neighbor

if you google and read the story about his current wife, they say one of the drug cartels hired her to poison him with one of those exotic poisons like the cia uses.
he married her. claimed it was the best way to thumb his nose at them (who doesn't like the gift that keeps on giving

so, much like Jeffrey epstein there is some question about his suicide
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
are you familiar with the john mcaffee stories?
i have a friend who competed with john for his first big government contract.
john was bat s**t crazy

in Belize the police say his next door neighbor killed his dogs.
he hired a hit man to torture/kill the neighbor

if you google and read the story about his current wife, they say one of the drug cartels hired her to poison him with one of those exotic poisons like the cia uses.
he married her. claimed it was the best way to thumb his nose at them (who doesn't like the gift that keeps on giving

so, much like Jeffrey epstein there is some question about his suicide
dude was definitely wild. I believe he was also suing whoever did that video about him in Belize for defamation of character as well, calling it slander.
 

netsol

Active Member
his problem was, he couldn't go back to the US, because of various criminal charges + beliize wanted to extradite
 

Solventinkjet

DIY Printer Fixing Guide
Most viruses come from clicking bad links or phishing attacks. I've used windows defender and malwarebytes for over 15 years without a single issue. I also back up physically and to the cloud so if something did happen I could be up and running again easily. At the end of the day I think buying AV is a waste of money. The only thing I would spend money on is a decent firewall with deep packet inspection.
 

netsol

Active Member
Most viruses come from clicking bad links or phishing attacks. I've used windows defender and malwarebytes for over 15 years without a single issue. I also back up physically and to the cloud so if something did happen I could be up and running again easily. At the end of the day I think buying AV is a waste of money. The only thing I would spend money on is a decent firewall with deep packet inspection.
watch out. our client's ransomware attack took out the backup datastore (and veeam is normally one of the best, although it is windows based)

i would say you are fairly safe because you are careful. MANY PEOPLE would click a link if it said "click here so we can crash your computer"

we encourage our clients to subscribe to KnowB4 or a similar service which gives you 30 minute tutorials, followed by a test, with monthly updates so you should be able to spot the latest, most likely threats. it also sends harmless phony threats to see which employees can pass the test, but not recognize the threat in the real world

the larger your staff, the more likely to have at least one careless idiot or someone who doesn't take the risk seriously. our largest client hovers around 135-160 employees, depending on the time of year. remember the worst part is, you can have 20 people filling in for vacation, jury duty, maternity leave, which means 15% of your work force has never seen what normal email flow is for a new department.

people with 5 employees just don't recognize the difficulties of a larger company
 

Solventinkjet

DIY Printer Fixing Guide
people with 5 employees just don't recognize the difficulties of a larger company

It's true. My buddy works in a company of about 110 people and they are constantly tested. The top people who don't fail any tests get a gift card. If you get too many fails, they just fire you!
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
It's true. My buddy works in a company of about 110 people and they are constantly tested. The top people who don't fail any tests get a gift card. If you get too many fails, they just fire you!
You would be surprised how many people will click on a gift card email just b/c it says its from someone in their contacts. Many people don't understand what domain spoofing is either or how to identify it. Only takes 1 user to crash your entire network though.
 

kcollinsdesign

Old member
netsol sez:
"not sure if it is still the case, but the british do not allow kapersky to be used on government devices
they recognize a bunch of russian hackers, masquerading as an antivirus company for what they are."

Kaspersky was one of the guys on VIRUS-L in the eighties. He was either in college or just out, and was dealing with a virus known as Cascade (which effected .com files and caused the text to "fall down on itself" on the monitor in a heap - a great little piece of software - you could easily detect it by the byte count). He came across as both eager and mischievous. I think he still runs Kaspersky Lab (probably worth billions). I see no reason not to trust Kaspersky Lab products (it would be stupid for the FSB to involve such a high profile business in its spy work).
 

vondegroot

bad design kills
I've built 100s of computers since 1999, and never would have thought I'd be running free AV programs!
But in fact, all I use now is Windows Defender and MalwareBytes AntiMalware. (or Avast AV on my Win7 machine)

I used to use ESET, and thought it was very good, but I can't afford that luxury anymore. Like it was mentioned, the best practice is to stay way from weird sites, don't open weird emails and don't fall for "Security" pop-ups. Let's also not forget those strange phone calls claiming you're in trouble with the Tax Man or your Google listings.
 
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Notarealsignguy

Arial - it's almost helvetica
I used to just run hijackthis if anything seemed screwy. That was good enough to take care of anything. The anti virus programs running in the background all seemed to be resource hogs. As already mentioned, some of them are sketchy too. It's funny how trusting people are of random antivirus software.
 
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