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Need Help Bubbling Before Printing

Discussion in 'Vinyl' started by Eforcer, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. Eforcer

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    This seems to happen a whole lot. I end up trashing yards of vinyl. It seems to bubble before even printing. I've tried with heat and then no heat..same &^%%T! Can anyone out there suggest anything?

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  2. Solventinkjet

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    It's either cheap, old, or defective vinyl I'm guessing. What are you using?
     
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  3. Gino

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    Looks like cheap stuff and probably not really any good for digital printing, even without the lifting.
     
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  4. Eforcer

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    Checking with supplier. It's Avery, not sure the number
     

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  5. MikePro

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    another thought could be that the vinyl has been sitting cold for a long time. Tis the season, warehouses/trucks/storagecontainers are freezing in the North this time of year.... and the quick-heating of the pre-print/cure may be causing this (most likely calendared) vinyl to rapidly expand.
     
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  6. Bubba06

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    Turn your heat settings down a bit on your printer, and try it.
     
  7. Eforcer

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    Thanks for all the replies. I've tried it without any heat. at all. Same...But what Mikepro wrote might make some sense. Now I am trying to remember, if this happens only in the winter. I use rolls of vinyl in the summer. Not so much in winter.

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  8. MikePro

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    easiest way to start, would be to diagnose whether its simply the media. you might get a few more credible troubleshoots if we knew the material and the printer at the start of the thread.

    unknown avery vinyl could be the culprit, as that brand still carries a LOT of question marks for me. could also be something silly like adhesive/stickiness on your pinch rollers lifting vinyl off the liner as its traveling through the printer. ....and i rant.
     
  9. Eforcer

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    This is the # MPI3320 I've purchase no namers for years, but what vinyl would you recommend?

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  10. MikePro

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    recommend? for what application and what printer? plenty of merchant members here with recommendations if you post the info.
     
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  11. Eforcer

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    Mostly on coroplast some walls and windows. I've used the same for everything. Don't know if it's right or not but have survived for 12 years now : )


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  12. MikePro

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    MPI3320 seems to be listed as acceptable for all types of printers... gotta just be the old/cold calendared vinyl going thru hot printer.
     
  13. Eforcer

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    Forgot to mention Mutoh1624
     
  14. Eforcer

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    Also I've noticed matte finish vinyl never wrinkles
     
  15. Gino

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    You've lasted 12 years or your vinyl jobs have lasted 12 years ??
     
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  16. Eforcer

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    GINO


    LOL me not vinyl Lasted these times using same product line
     
  17. JBurton

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    My money is on an old roll that was stored cold. Have you given it the proper 24hrs in the print room to reach optimum temp? I had a job a couple of weeks ago during a cold snap that constantly bubbled cast 3m 8519 onto ij180. It was 50deg in the print room. Brought it into the offices afterward, and all the bubbles went away within 12 hrs. Not a suggestion, just kindly proof of concept that temp is a critical factor in all stages.
     
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  18. Eforcer

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    I have a 2200 sq ft. location, but the site has "ABSOLUTELY NO INSULATION" So if it is 40 degrees outside, it's around 28-30 It's a refrigerator in winter and a stove in the summer. So let chalk it up to temp.

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