BigfishDM
Merchant Member
The ink cost for this one are pretty high I noticed also. In latex your at $0.17ml (Including printheads and maintenance cart) vs. $0.25ml for Epson
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Buying new Printer..WHICH ONE?!!
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The ink cost for this one are pretty high I noticed also. In latex your at $0.17ml (Including printheads and maintenance cart) vs. $0.25ml for Epson
Signed Out
New Member
I've been noticing more and more threads lately of people having problems with their HP latex machines. Seems to be some issue with the newer models and ink delaminating from vinyl after being laminated. I've also noticed a lot of people saying there is a ton of wasted time/material everytime you have to change out media, something to do with how it has to be loaded. Not as big of a problem for large shops who can dedicate a printer to 1 media all day. But if you have to print a couple vehicles, a couple banners, some signs, and some yard signs on any given day, then changing out the media 4 times can add up. This is why our shop may still lean solvent when we upgrade.
altereddezignz
New Member
It drives me nuts to read threads like this about people getting into producing sign work. They leave out all the main factors they need. Going into a new shop all the hand tools needed, Different cleaners, Different install materials and applicator let alone having to learn something completely different. Wide format printers are a whole new animal. I had always done screen printing and my boss wanted to get into digital printing. A local shop was closing so we bought the laminater, plotter and mutoh 1324 printer. If you search for my threads you can take a look at the nightmare i went through in rebuilding this printer. New lines, ink, fuse, encoder, cleaning and doing multiple head soaks and so on. The printer now runs rather good but still have a nozzle that will not fire right but i make up for it when i design to compensate b/c i know exactly how it is going to act and no one ever knows the difference.
There are a ton of cost factors when pricing jobs. Its funny to hear a price someone is quoted from another shop. I told my boss not long ago about a new shop that was way undercutting other shops but were doing decent work. A little rushed but decent. It wasnt a year later and the shop had everything for sale due to going out of business. They where not figuring everything into thier hourly shop rate and or working for free so not being able to cover the bills.
I have seen a lot of shops do this. I really wish they would pay attention to finances and ROI and learn how to successfully run a business and manage a business before they dive in. Most people only manage a small amount of money and do not have the stress and time deadlines they do before opening a print shop. Even coming from a solid color vinyl shop there is a huge difference in the economy and the clients.
Anyways thats my .01 cent worth...
There are a ton of cost factors when pricing jobs. Its funny to hear a price someone is quoted from another shop. I told my boss not long ago about a new shop that was way undercutting other shops but were doing decent work. A little rushed but decent. It wasnt a year later and the shop had everything for sale due to going out of business. They where not figuring everything into thier hourly shop rate and or working for free so not being able to cover the bills.
I have seen a lot of shops do this. I really wish they would pay attention to finances and ROI and learn how to successfully run a business and manage a business before they dive in. Most people only manage a small amount of money and do not have the stress and time deadlines they do before opening a print shop. Even coming from a solid color vinyl shop there is a huge difference in the economy and the clients.
Anyways thats my .01 cent worth...
BigfishDM
Merchant Member
+.15 sqft for PH +0.10 for cleaning stuff and electricty, so make that 0.50/sqft
Actually, it's $0.17-$0.19 and includes everything including the print head cost
SignMeUpGraphics
Super Active Member
We're currently buying genuine Epson S80600 inks for just under USD$0.17mL at the moment.
Just refreshing some outdated figures from above.
Just refreshing some outdated figures from above.
BVG
New Member
Who are you buying through? We've been getting some quotes on an S80600 but haven't been getting that low on inks. I know your volume is probably higher than ours but I'm curious.
SignMeUpGraphics
Super Active Member
We're not pumping through huge volumes to be honest. The printer has been pretty frugal.
Try Neopost or Starleaton. We've been buying from Starleaton (DES) for ~10 years, so our prices might be beneficial due to that.
Try Neopost or Starleaton. We've been buying from Starleaton (DES) for ~10 years, so our prices might be beneficial due to that.