Casino bus, removal and wrap! (my personal nightmare)

[jpsamuel06]

Latest wrap, thought I would share the experience with the rest of you! First time dealing with P94 on a removal... I Dont even use this stuff on installs! Ive got 6.5 more days to finish this.. Including new wrap. With view thru. And there is paint damage from the primer so its a good idea i know how to do body work...

 

[jpsamuel06]

I will update thread with progress pics. Wish me luck!

 

[DougWestwood]

heat gun?

Hi There,

Wondering if the paint removing problem could be avoided by using a heat gun?
Even letting it sit in the sun a few hours can melt the old glue and help it peel off.

Please post results!
- Doug
Vancouver

 

[tylercrum]

I hate that primer crap. It's such a nightmare. We don't even keep any on hand here, haven't used it in years. I feel your pain.

 

[jpsamuel06]

Tried heat. Made the vinyl removal a little easier, but any primer areas still left all the adhesive. The worst part about this wrap the previous shop wrapped over and primed most of the trim and rubber seals. Let's just say it's only day 2 and my fingers already hurt lol

Hi There,

Wondering if the paint removing problem could be avoided by using a heat gun?
Even letting it sit in the sun a few hours can melt the old glue and help it peel off.

Please post results!
- Doug
Vancouver

 

[jpsamuel06]

Bus was brand new, 0 miles, 5 years ago too when the wrap was applied. Smh.

 

[SightLine]

Ouch! Yeah that's a nightmare. We have started calling it FYou94..... Makes removal work take twice as long since everywhere there is primer, 100% of the adhesive gets left behind. Plus on that bus the problems are compounded since the flat metal side panels do not have automotive grade paint. Its crappy thin polyester based junk - same as on little utility trailers. Anything stronger than Goo Gone will dissolve that crappy paint. On the fiberglass and the van front though - Xylol will cut that primer in a hurry without paint damage. Do not get it on any rubber, plastics, or that crap paint that's on the pre-finished aluminum panels on the bus body though. I've run into installs where I think the original installer managed to find primer 94 by the gallon and used a big paint brush to apply it.

I tell places right up front - if we did not install it (and don't know what the material is) or if its horribly degraded that the removal will cost between $500 and $5000. Shocks them but they quickly learn why they should better care for their wrap and why they should spec top quality materials and why they should have a wrap removed at the first signs of degradation. It will stop protecting the paint and instead start severely damaging it instead if left on once it starts degrading.

 

[GB2]

Have you tried alcohol to remove that Primer 94?

 

[Bly]

And this is why we never quote for removals... any more.
Once bitten.
We did a Sprinter removal after quoting just on pics once.
Turned out it had been wrapped with unlammed cast then clear coat sprayed over while it was on the van.
Quoted 2 days - it took 6 full days.

 

[Eric H]

Just did something very similar. To remove the primer we sprayed it with rapid remover used a lil chisler to loosen it up and then pressure washed it. Stills sucks but not quite as much. We recently had 4 vans and a bus like that to do like that.

 

[Typestries]

You didn't mention it, but did you try to Remove primer with primer? In all seriousness. Terry cloth towel wet with primer and rub!

 

[James Burke]

I thought that logo looked familiar...I used to live in Mt. Pleasant.


Good luck,


JB

 

[petesign]

this is why i dont wrap cars anymore. not worth the headache

 

[jpsamuel06]

Alcohol and this 3m orange scented cleaner is doing the trick!

Have you tried alcohol to remove that Primer 94?

 

[decalman]

I would definitely spray this with " reflective vinyl off" I would wait about 15 minutes or so and then see what happens.
Lots of times, the reflective vinyl off will eat the vinyl right to the glue, and ...presto, off it comes...But... you may have to use it in combination with a heat gun, and a scraper, ( I use a special razor tool- I rarely if ever scratch with my little tool.)

Rapid Rem. for the glue, maybe some min spirits too to lube it up. Helps prevent scratching.

 

[CSOCSO]

Rapid remover > spray it down in shade ( not inside!!!) wait 5 minutes> spray it down again> wait 5 minutes> spray it down again> now pressure wash the glue off.

 

[jpsamuel06]

The longest week ive had in a long time.. But i got it done on schedule! A few late nights and a few sore muscles... But here it is for those that are still following!

 

[Behrmon]

Looks great!!

 

[Ultimate13]

Turned out awesome!

As a side note for removals, we use a wallpaper steamer to remove old vinyl and it works very well. Haven't tried it with 94 tho so I'm not sure how that would react.

 

[Gino]

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