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CE6000-60 Registration marks

Discussion in 'Graphtec' started by Lophatcustoms, Jul 15, 2020.

  1. Lophatcustoms

    Lophatcustoms New Member

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    Hi everyone,

    Im having Issues with my machine finding registration marks (CE6000-60). I have been trying to tackle it myself by doing my due diligence before posting. I've done the Firmware update on the machine. I also downloaded the ARMS test sheets to conduct with the Pen tool.All software is up to date. Machine sensor is dirt free.

    Ive been printing on a Mimaki cjv30-130 , using cutting master 4 , gloss white material. Ive been tending to make the Reg marks thicker so they are a bit easier to read. I also Use 4 marks per Reg mark

    I have seen laminate being a huge issue in the past so for all these test I've only been laminating the graphic and not over the registration marks to try to make things easier. Which it hasn't. I can't get the my machine to even do the test with the pen at this point. Any tips or past experiences would be great !

    thanks in advance.
     
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  2. JBurton

    JBurton Signtologist

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    Are you getting as far as the plotter reading one or more marks, or just flat nothing happening? Also, what software are you using with cutting master 4? Illustrator or Corel?
     
  3. Lophatcustoms

    Lophatcustoms New Member

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    Hey there, using Adobe illustrator, yes very rarly it will do a 2nd or 3rd mark before not reading them. I even managed for it to read all 4 and cut a decal successfully but the time it takes messing around profit wise doesn't make sense. Havent been able to get it to read the Arm printed sheet to do the sensor test
     
  4. JBurton

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    Hmm, working with a FC8600 here, but there are a couple of things it could be. Are you using the correct ARMS setting, there are at least two different types, and on the FC you select which type on the plotter as well as in the software. Here's a pic of the two different versions, also it shows you where to place the tip of the blade before hitting send. You will also need some extra space between the mark and the outer most pinch wheel on either side. This little picture has a lot of great info on it also...
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  5. Lophatcustoms

    Lophatcustoms New Member

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    Thanks for that I'll keep it on hand, Ive tried both types unfortunately , with minimal results :( . Id really like to get though the sensor test but it just hunts for it over and over
     
  6. JBurton

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    I will say I use type 2, and if I don't put the blade just so within the mark, it acts like I must be miles from it and starts searching a 6x6 area, where I was only off 1/8". Make sure you have at least 2" of vinyl on all sides of the marks, including front and back, and that you roll the vinyl back into the machine until the blade is at the edge and hit origin.
    Also, some folks have better luck with lights on, lights off, flashlight pointed at it, a bit of matte laminate over the mark, and I've even managed to put premask over them, then carefully trace the marks by hand with a fine pen on something like reflective.
    I'm sure you have run through this whole page trying solutions, but just in case you haven't: https://www.graphtecamerica.com/cp-faq-video-print-and-cut-issues-not-reading-marks
     
  7. Lophatcustoms

    Lophatcustoms New Member

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    oh yes , I've been all over. But any info such as which style you prefer and tips etc would be great. As I say trying to gather as much info as possible to make the print and cut a faster process, I have a support ticket in with Graphtec as of this aft as well. Frustrated o_O
     
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    Hopefully they set you straight! I had spent countless hours in Onyx 10.1 trying to get trying to get cut contour lines to work before I realized I could brute force the process with cutting master 2 generating reg marks, converted to objects, exported and saved as a separate file for plotting. Doing it this way is slower, but I can use the rest of the cutting master options to do stuff like cut parts in a particular order, cut at different forces, and cut starting from a particular point while defining direction. It's really useful for doing stuff like plotting a bunch of stickers with a weed border, feeding out and pausing while I weed them all at once, then letting it continue cutting with a different force that will cut through the backing and drop the stickers in a slightly messy pile. (If I'm not mistaken, cutting master 3 or 4 was totally rebuilt for simplicity, but it removed a bunch of advanced features. You may consider trying cutting master 2 out if it is compatible with your version of Illustrator. It should be compatible with your plotter no matter what, I run a FC8600-160 with it without issue.
     
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    Lophatcustoms New Member

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    Thanks so much for your reply , All great info I'm adding to my arsenal :)
     
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    Just use bomb sight alignment. I got so quick with it I never even tried to use automatic again, cuz it would never work right.
     
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