Color issues with flexi 8.6

[PhantomNeon]

I have a big issues with red color in flexi8.6, I use colormunki, for my monitor profile, and set as profile on flexi color settings, and all that settings, but I never can get a real red, (only orange), I tried everything, but is really imposible. I change to RGB to CMYK, and other way, but the real red never appear, someone use some specific color swatch that show better colors ?
Or any sugest ?
Thanks . . . .

 

[J Hill Designs]

One suggestions is to only post help once...how are we supposed to follow the topic if it's split between 2 threads?

One thing is I wouldn't use my monitor profile for the printed output profile...try a canned profile obtained from the manufacturer of whatever material you are printing on...

edit: here http://www.signs101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55734&highlight=pantone+printable (post #7) is a printable pantone chart, so you can see differences in what you are printing vs what is being output

 

[luggnut]

One thing is I wouldn't use my monitor profile for the printed output profile...try a canned profile obtained from the manufacturer of whatever material you are printing on..

your monitor profile is just so your monitor will display color correctly. sRGB or adobe 1998 are the 2 most common profiles for the program's rgb space. which ever one you use use it thru out and in your RIP too.

now that is just one of the thousands of things that could be going on with your color. color management is a huge and complex subject. you need to learn rendering intents, output media profiles, CMYK vs. RGB, input profiles (sRGB / adobe1998 ...above).

most of the time it is the RIP trying to render RGB bright red , which can't be achieved in CMYK, so it maps the color according to the rendering intent to the closes it can produce.....

 

[PhantomNeon]

Thanks...

One suggestions is to only post help once...how are we supposed to follow the topic if it's split between 2 threads?

I was not sure, if this is color or flexi issue, thanks for the advice....

 

[PhantomNeon]

Thanks

Color magnament, sounds like avery complicated issues.
I use colormunki profile, but when i used a generic-LCD profile, my color looks better....
I'm not sure, sounds like my colormunki is not doing good job.
I'm keeping "no color correction, excep for bitmats= percentual", I'm playing around...

 

[eye4clr]

as mentioned, you monitor profile is just that...for the monitor only. You use it no where else.

as mentioned, you need to set your input profiles in your RIP to be either sRGB or Adobe RGB. When in doubt, use sRGB. Set all the rendering intents to Perceptual to simplify the setup. As you learn more you may alter these at times.

You need to find a media profile that is for your specific RIP/print/ink/media combination. Yes, you need one for every media you use. Sometimes you can get away with not having an exact match, but don't count on it.

Think of each part of your workflow separately and know that a profile is used at each step. The file is contained in a "Working Space", usually either sRGB or US Web Coated SWOP for CMYK if you're in the USA or whatever regional CMYK is appropriate for your area. The monitor profile is the tool that helps you view the working space color correctly on your monitor - THATS THE ONLY ROLE IT PLAYS. The media profile in the RIP is used to convert from working space to accurate color for printing.

Get these parts in place and see if that improves your situation. It likely will, maybe by a big margin. If it does not, there could be problems with the performance of the printer or the media profile may not really be a match for your specific RIP/printer/ink/media combination.

Your system is made of many links in a chain, each have to be working correctly to get accurate output.