Custom ada braille sign recommendations?

[SignManiac]

I'm doing some custom work for a hospice and they need wall hall signs. They need to be ADA compliant. I have a design worked up but need a source for the braille portion. Any suggestions at all???


I can do the logo on the left. I need a basic rectangle for the lettering and numbers with raised copy and the little braille dots below. Here's a what they will look like minus the dots shown here. The background cream color and letter colors and dot will most likely be custom colors.

 

[J Hill Designs]

hmm photoemulsion or sandblasted perhaps? might toss an email to scott and/or mohawk and see what they quote

I know scott has applique braille dots, but these look a bit high-end for a stick-on square of braille

 

[SignManiac]

Yes not looking for cheap. Need to be really nice looking. Have to look classy.

 

[CanuckSigns]

We can do them, but we're a bit far away, might want to check with C&C Engraving they are a MM on here an i've heard good reviews. otherwise, contact Accent Signage at 800-215-9437 and ask for someone in your area that has a licence to use their Raster braille kit.

 

[SignManiac]

Thanks, I'll check them out too.

 

[Rick]

The visual copy needs to be upper case...

you can do second surface graphics/paint on non-glare acrylic, raster braille and engraved copy.

 

[CanuckSigns]

I was going to say, the text needs to be all uppercase, and i'm not sure if that font is going to be compliant either.

 

[SignManiac]

Rick not sure I quite understand what that means. Do you have an example you can show me. Is this something I should be able to do myself or should I outsource the braille portion?

 

[SignManiac]

Hmmm, I'll check into the font issue.

 

[thinksigns]

C&C Engraving

 

[Gino]

You also might wanna check and make sure you have enough contrast from background to letters/numbers colors. Sometimes no matter how appealing it can be made, it won't pass an ADA inspection.

 

[MixMaker]

I thought Raster Braille was the only ADA compliant braille system used anymore. No need to swap out machines though. You can become licensed through Gravograph, use your existing engraving software to type and pounce the braille holes and use one of their pens to insert the braille dots. It's tedious, but you'll at least know you're compliant.

http://www.gravograph.us/market/signage.php

Their pen kit comes with the current laws and regulations.

I haven't done braille since switching companies, but it's what we had to use for any hospitals and such that had the budget and were required to enforce the strict laws for handicapped people.

Doesn't all text and numbers have to be raised and sans-serif?

 

[Rick]

On the main panels, you should be able to do the panel portion yourself. Just back-spray the field color. You can sandwich the field color between some acrylic, or add vinyl to protect the paint when you mount it.

On the graphic panel, you can do a second surface digital print, then sandwich the acrylic/print with an acrylic backer.

On the raised copy, do you have an engraver? Otherwise leave that to the person doing the braille.

 

[Rick]

On the color, if you are using a particular paint, you can get the LRV from the manufacturer to see if you are within the 70% contrast. The images you show might be pushing it.

On the type, the number "1" has that fancy little serif, some san serif typefaces have serifs on the numbers, it's a tough call, you can hack that thing off and there will be no issues.

 

[SignManiac]

I found the requirements for the fonts allowed. I'll change mine over, no big deal. Read up on the spacing requirements, etc. I'll make the few changes and it should still look okay when done.

Thanks for all the links and tips!

 

[CanuckSigns]

yeah it's a challenge sometimes to make signs both attractive AND compliant, but it can be done.

 

[MikePro]

photopolymer is still ADA compliant, but there's a certain company campaigning to make raster-braille the only option. something about how the squared-off dots causing the blind to lose sensitivity in their fingers... bleh.

anywho, raster braille is still gorgeous and useful for a larger variety of substrates.
if you're going for something eye-catching, i'd go with raster-braille on clear acrylic with 1st and 2nd surface graphics/detailing.

 

[visual800]

contact todd at whitewater graphics
Phone (360) 480-1655
or Fax (253) 645-5857

info@whitewatergraphics.com

He does all my stuff and is very resonable

 

[fixtureman]

The font has to be San Serf and the Braille needs to be Grade 2 braille that is like a short hand version. All buildings will need to be compliant. The balls need to be 1/32 above the surface of the sign along with any graphic symbols.

 

[TheSnowman]

Call Gene @ C&C Engraving, Merchant's here (as others have said) they do great work and leave you room to still make some decent money on the job.