Kottwitz-Graphics
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Yup. And you know when he learns his lesson, you will be the first person he will call and offer it to you, and then you can pick it up for pennies on the dollar.
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- Thread starter Mosh
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Yup. And you know when he learns his lesson, you will be the first person he will call and offer it to you, and then you can pick it up for pennies on the dollar.
rjssigns
Active Member
I laminate for another shop. Also do some of their print work too. Long story and we're under contract so I can't talk about details. Suffice to say I will laminate/print all day and all night for these guys. They are in a totally different realm of signage anyway.
We make good coin on product we never would have got a sniff at.
We make good coin on product we never would have got a sniff at.
Pat Whatley
New Member
He's gonna bug the hell out of you with questions for a while.
Then he's gonna figure out how cheap it is to print stuff on his own and how you're ripping people off. Then he's going to get his wife/girlfriend/cousin/brother to open a shop selling crap stuff at crap prices. Then he'll drive down the market price in town to the point where you aren't doing much printing any longer.
Nope, only way to handle this is to shoot him now and bury him in a soybean field.
Then he's gonna figure out how cheap it is to print stuff on his own and how you're ripping people off. Then he's going to get his wife/girlfriend/cousin/brother to open a shop selling crap stuff at crap prices. Then he'll drive down the market price in town to the point where you aren't doing much printing any longer.
Nope, only way to handle this is to shoot him now and bury him in a soybean field.
chester215
Just call me Chester.
..............And tell him you can get great deals on aftermarket ink on ebay.
CanuckSigns
Active Member
Kottwitz-Graphics
New Member
Man, I forgot how things went on in the south...Oh, how I miss it.
GWSigns
New Member
Or in the AZ desert......lots and lots of abandoned mine shafts
You guys need to watch out for the swat teams when the NSA computer picks up this thread...
Billct2
Active Member
I've had a few of these happen over the years.
It's not the same as doing sub work for other shops.
This customer has gone into business to specifically take away some of your business, and then some.
By potentially (big maybe) helping him succeed you will contribute to your own loss of business.
And if he does fail he'll probably be too embarassed to offer you the now worthless machines.
Let him sink or swim all on his own.
It's not the same as doing sub work for other shops.
This customer has gone into business to specifically take away some of your business, and then some.
By potentially (big maybe) helping him succeed you will contribute to your own loss of business.
And if he does fail he'll probably be too embarassed to offer you the now worthless machines.
Let him sink or swim all on his own.
natedawg9640
New Member
a job is a job. i woulda laminated them like he was any other customer.
Dakotagrafx
New Member
Mosh, you got hogs right - they eat bones . . . . no mine shaft needed.
TyrantDesigner
Art! Hot and fresh.
Lam his prints for him ... I like the idea of $4 a sq foot. If he does decide to call it quits, let him know i'll buy his roland for $500 after he's gummed up all the heads.
Mosh, I had a Customer recently do this to me. Person came to my shop, nosed around a lot, asked lots of questions, bought their own printer. Now wants me to sell my artwork to them to reproduce. I was offered 5% of anything that sells. LOL! Oh, and they would have the rights to reproduce my art however they saw fit, forever. I just said "That's a great offer" and "Congrats" and nothing more will be said, no more help given. Oh, and I can do without the 5% Royalty, or Ripoff, whatever they want to call it. Haha!
Had this same thing happen to us. Now they get mad when my sales guy goes after their customers. We get good laughs at the shop because they get themselves into binds a lot trying to copy us. I say oh well anyone can buy this stuff but it doesn't mean they know how to run it and run a business.
PS we still get them out of the binds they get in
PS we still get them out of the binds they get in
TXFB.INS
New Member
hopefully there is $$$$$ added to this help
we had a recent customer not like our price on 040 aluminum 48x96. so they went out and got their our printer and now doing FULL COLOR / INK COVERAGE 2 sided signs for $117.65!!!
On top of that they are constantly trying to rip off our artwork / designs and not even hiding the fact they are doing it
TyrantDesigner
Art! Hot and fresh.
There are scabs everywhere.
Just because they buy the equipment doesn't mean they are competition even in the slightest. I have no idea how many times someone comes in saying they bought a printer, a plotter, a screen press, whatever and are going to take over business in Amarillo ... they don't. Some try to underbid ... by a ton ... doesn't help them, only gets them the cheapest customer. It's why I now adays like to choose my jobs, I quote for making a good living, not a lot of work and if I get the job ... awesome ... if not ... I'm going to go work on a painting or go spend time with my boy.
If you provide a good product with excellent customer service and you are reasonably priced ... you can lose a customer here or there because they are cheapscates. I almost bet you the ones you lose were the biggest pains in the *** to begin with.
I won't help these people ... but I definitely won't hurt them ... or suggest them to people. There are shops more suited to do jobs I get inquiries about and I tell them to go to those shops to see what they can do. the scab shops pretty much don't exist on my radar, I know who runs them, I know who does the actual work and I know the quality ... but because of that I am just more informed about how little they affect my business as my customers know they will get what they need, when they need it and won't have any issues with it.
Just because they buy the equipment doesn't mean they are competition even in the slightest. I have no idea how many times someone comes in saying they bought a printer, a plotter, a screen press, whatever and are going to take over business in Amarillo ... they don't. Some try to underbid ... by a ton ... doesn't help them, only gets them the cheapest customer. It's why I now adays like to choose my jobs, I quote for making a good living, not a lot of work and if I get the job ... awesome ... if not ... I'm going to go work on a painting or go spend time with my boy.
If you provide a good product with excellent customer service and you are reasonably priced ... you can lose a customer here or there because they are cheapscates. I almost bet you the ones you lose were the biggest pains in the *** to begin with.
I won't help these people ... but I definitely won't hurt them ... or suggest them to people. There are shops more suited to do jobs I get inquiries about and I tell them to go to those shops to see what they can do. the scab shops pretty much don't exist on my radar, I know who runs them, I know who does the actual work and I know the quality ... but because of that I am just more informed about how little they affect my business as my customers know they will get what they need, when they need it and won't have any issues with it.