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Did I violate Copyright or Fair use?

iSign

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it's not wrong to modify it (& we both know that was NOT your original question)
it was fine to modify it, and as far as the image owner is concerned, it wasn't modified anyway...

your question was, and is:

My question is does the license still apply to my derivative work & does my derivative work violate any copyright or fair use laws even if they aren't listed specifically in the license if I choose to use the derivative work elsewhere?

the answer has been, and is:

(in my don't-know-it-all opinion) you do not have a derivative work to begin with, you just have a licensed image you flipped... and yes the license still applies to the one legal use, and it still applies to the any additional illegal usage
 

Locals Find!

New Member
it's not wrong to modify it (& we both know that was NOT your original question)
it was fine to modify it, and as far as the image owner is concerned, it wasn't modified anyway...

your question was, and is:



the answer has been, and is:

(in my don't-know-it-all opinion) you do not have a derivative work to begin with, you just have a licensed image you flipped... and yes the license still applies to the one legal use, and it still applies to the any additional illegal usage

Right Doug, I did ask about the derivative work. The opinion was that it wasn't. I wasn't asking again about that. I felt that if others in my field didn't see it as a separate work their is no way anyone else would see it that way either. So I tabled that part of the question as resolved and moved on to the other part.

Some others have voiced the opinion that modifying the image is a copyright violation. I was interested to know their reasoning behind those opinions.
 

iSign

New Member
Some others have voiced the opinion that modifying the image is a copyright violation.


Addie, you wrote:
My question was if you license a piece of artwork is it legal to modify it to suit your needs for your project?

but Colorado didn't answer that question.. because like myself 10 minutes ago, he didn't want the bait & switch to muddy the waters here, so he re-stated your question before attempting to answer it.


Your questions actually is
"Did I violate Copyright or Fair use?"

The answer is yes, im not exactly sure how you want it sugar coated.

I don't see how you can assume this constitutes someone claiming that your act of flipping or vectorizing is in and of itself a violation...

I think what many of us might be confused by is the notion that you might produce a second piece of work from this image.
I'm guessing a lot of us already presume you to have produced a second piece.

It is my guess that Colorado was saying "The answer is yes" because he thinks this as well...


...that is just a guess of course.
 

Locals Find!

New Member
Addie, you wrote:


but Colorado didn't answer that question.. because like myself 10 minutes ago, he didn't want the bait & switch to muddy the waters here, so he re-stated your question before attempting to answer it.




I don't see how you can assume this constitutes someone claiming that your act of flipping or vectorizing is in and of itself a violation...

I think what many of us might be confused by is the notion that you might produce a second piece of work from this image.
I'm guessing a lot of us already presume you to have produced a second piece.

It is my guess that Colorado was saying "The answer is yes" because he thinks this as well...


...that is just a guess of course.

Ok, let me be very clear then. I have only produced one piece. The one order of business cards. Have not produced any other pieces at all. Only place the artwork has been displayed other than the business cards was here for opinions. Which I believe given the circumstances behind its use will not be considered a violation of copyright or the license.

After hearing opinions on the matter of using it elsewhere I have decided that if I produce another piece will pick up another license its only $5 so worth my time to pick up another one than risk going to court. Hope that is clear enough.
 

John Butto

New Member
You live in FL, why don't you go find some palm trees and take a pic, you could have it all finished by now in Photoshop by all the time you were on here going back and forth with everyone.
 

CES020

New Member
I think this clause in that link stops you from doing what you are suggesting doing :

RESTRICTIONS

You cannot :

13. Use Bigstock Images as the primary feature of any individual physical or digital product or any collection thereof which is offered for sale, trade or otherwise distributed in violation of the terms of this Agreement. Additionally, Images must be an integrated, inseparable part of a product and must constitute less than 50 percent of the overall product area, page layout or design.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
I didn't sell the design as original. I didn't charge for it as an original. I never represented it was original in anyway fashion or form. The client knew full well this was a purchased stock image simply edited to achieve their desired result. They knew about the license involved also. The only thing they paid for was my time to do the editing to achieve the desired result. I didn't steal this graphic off of someones website or google images. I licensed the image for the use I intended which was to make a business card from a Reputable dealer.

My question was if you license a piece of artwork is it legal to modify it to suit your needs for your project?

Is this fair use or a copyright violation
?


What part was edited/modified ?? Simply flipping or vectorizing something is not modifying.


I don't know what I'm missing here, but it sounds like you're trying to get away with something and trying to find a loophole with your cryptic questions.

Again, how is it.... you have been caught in so many copyright infringements and yet you still are looking for ways to.... ah...... get around this very situation again and again and again and again ?? What's it take for you to stop doing this kinda chit ?? Can't you do a little work on your own, instead of depending on the internet and trying to find ways out of stated rules ?? I mean... really, if you have a question, why don't you call that site directly and tell them the whole truth of what you're doing and not side step the bad parts ?? Show them what you're doing and see what they say, first hand.
 

Locals Find!

New Member
What part was edited/modified ?? Simply flipping or vectorizing something is not modifying.


I don't know what I'm missing here, but it sounds like you're trying to get away with something and trying to find a loophole with your cryptic questions.

Again, how is it.... you have been caught in so many copyright infringements and yet you still are looking for ways to.... ah...... get around this very situation again and again and again and again ?? What's it take for you to stop doing this kinda chit ?? Can't you do a little work on your own, instead of depending on the internet and trying to find ways out of stated rules ?? I mean... really, if you have a question, why don't you call that site directly and tell them the whole truth of what you're doing and not side step the bad parts ?? Show them what you're doing and see what they say, first hand.

I wasn't trying to do anything illegal or immoral. I was simply trying to understand something better that I didn't understand clearly. I asked the questions to stay out of trouble not work around it. That's all Gino. No Hidden Agenda. No stolen work.

I always believed the only dumb question was the one not asked. So I asked.
 

ucmj22

New Member
just call the stock image company. I had a similar question with iStockphoto and they answered the question immediately and I ended up not needing an extended license.
 
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