Question Discontinued - Quickbooks Premier Desktop -

[Gino]

What am I missing here ??

I have QB on two computers. Both are 2011 versions and I haven't updated since 2011. Both versions work completely except for saving pdf's. Someone here helped me get over that hurdle. Other than that, the program runs perfectly. The office is running on the latest version for whatever reason, I don't know.

 

[netsol]

Gino,
i still use 2016
every time i upgraded (since qb1999) i was disapointed and wished i hadn't

 

[Notarealsignguy]

It will still work in basic form however they cut off all of the convenient features like bank feeds. At least that is how I understand it.

 

[White Haus]

For you guys using ancient versions, don't your tax tables get messed up or do you manually update?

I know our taxes are quite different here in Canada eh, but I thought tax table updates would be something that would be fairly consistent across the board.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

For you guys using ancient versions, don't your tax tables get messed up or do you manually update?

I know our taxes are quite different here in Canada eh, but I thought tax table updates would be something that would be fairly consistent across the board.

You talking about payroll?

 

[Gino]

Yeah, we got our first one back in the 1990's sometime. Here at the shop, we primarily use them to generate quotes and generate invoice transmittal sheets for the office. So, none of the taxes, banking or any other features are really needed. I guess that's why they keep theirs up-to-date. Also, our shop computers are used for manufacturing and production and you may not have invoicing or other clerical/accounting things performed on a work type computer. Estimating does not count, but all that other stuff may not be on a shop computer. Yep, it's illegal to have them combined. Do people do it ?? I'll bet many of you are and didn't even know that law.

 

[White Haus]

Yeah, we got our first one back in the 1990's sometime. Here at the shop, we primarily use them to generate quotes and generate invoice transmittal sheets for the office. So, none of the taxes, banking or any other features are really needed. I guess that's why they keep theirs up-to-date. Also, our shop computers are used for manufacturing and production and you may not have invoicing or other clerical/accounting things performed on a work type computer. Estimating does not count, but all that other stuff may not be on a shop computer. Yep, it's illegal to have them combined. Do people do it ?? I'll bet many of you are and didn't even know that law.

Says who? That's an odd law. Who gives a chit if you're streaming porn hub on a production computer let alone printing off an invoice.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

Yeah, we got our first one back in the 1990's sometime. Here at the shop, we primarily use them to generate quotes and generate invoice transmittal sheets for the office. So, none of the taxes, banking or any other features are really needed. I guess that's why they keep theirs up-to-date. Also, our shop computers are used for manufacturing and production and you may not have invoicing or other clerical/accounting things performed on a work type computer. Estimating does not count, but all that other stuff may not be on a shop computer. Yep, it's illegal to have them combined. Do people do it ?? I'll bet many of you are and didn't even know that law.

I think your wife told you that so you'd keep your fat fingers off of HER money. Smart lady.

 

[WildWestDesigns]

Says who? That's an odd law. Who gives a chit if you're streaming porn hub on a production computer let alone printing off an invoice.

I think you would be surprised about what local jurisdictions have for laws on some things. What would really be the concern is the information that may be contained in those documents. It's easier if one does it all, so they are already aware of the nitty gritty, but in bigger operations, it's not the same. The bigger the operation, more headaches one has to deal with.

As to streaming porn hub, something happens while doing your thing with that, yea, people will care.

I think people would really be surprised about what laws are actually on the books in their local jurisdiction (I laugh every time I read "emergency repairs" in an email that is obviously about repo), but may not be in another jurisdiction. But considering some don't read the few pages of the EULA on their niche ubber expensive specialty software that has some out there things as well, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.

 

[Goatshaver]

You can still get a desktop version with the same features I believe, but it comes with a cost versus going to the online only version. My understanding is that you can purchase the new desktop version to be able to keep using invoices paid online or payroll, etc..., but you will have to make that purchase every year.
It'll just cost more to keep the desktop version moving forward until they decide to totally ditch installable software altogether.

 

[mbasch]

We still use QB Desktop 2017. We used to upgrade every couple of year when they turn off the bank feeds to force you to upgrade, but every time we upgrade it affects our job tracking system which integrates with QB causing a domino effect of upgrades so we stopped. We use a 3rd party app called Transaction Pro to import all of our cc charges which was really the only reason for us to upgrade.

I understand why software companies want the "Holy Grail" subscription model, but it is a disservice to small companies. It turns software, that used to be an asset into a monthly/yearly liability. I am also very leery of putting all of my financial information online with a company that is constantly pushing "upgrades". If we talk about data security, you now have an software company knowing exactly how much you make, who you make it from and tracks every dollar you spend. In addition, they can now increase the cost at will and you won't have a choice but to pay it or spend thousands moving to a new system. It also limits innovation. Rather than coming up with a new feature or service that inspires us to upgrade, they just maintain the status quo or force changes on you, even if you don't want those changes. Just my 2 cents.

One of my vendors used a billing app to send us invoices. The company abruptly shut it down with no warning and no opportunity to move the data. He lost 3 years of invoicing history.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

We still use QB Desktop 2017. We used to upgrade every couple of year when they turn off the bank feeds to force you to upgrade, but every time we upgrade it affects our job tracking system which integrates with QB causing a domino effect of upgrades so we stopped. We use a 3rd party app called Transaction Pro to import all of our cc charges which was really the only reason for us to upgrade.

I understand why software companies want the "Holy Grail" subscription model, but it is a disservice to small companies. It turns software, that used to be an asset into a monthly/yearly liability. I am also very leery of putting all of my financial information online with a company that is constantly pushing "upgrades". If we talk about data security, you now have an software company knowing exactly how much you make, who you make it from and tracks every dollar you spend. In addition, they can now increase the cost at will and you won't have a choice but to pay it or spend thousands moving to a new system. It also limits innovation. Rather than coming up with a new feature or service that inspires us to upgrade, they just maintain the status quo or force changes on you, even if you don't want those changes. Just my 2 cents.

One of my vendors used a billing app to send us invoices. The company abruptly shut it down with no warning and no opportunity to move the data. He lost 3 years of invoicing history.

kind of like what Gmail did not that long ago.

 

[netsol]

i remember an auditor saying he had previously been in a position to request info by "administrative subpoena" (any employee can fill one out) and that intuit not only responds immediately with requested information, but, since they consider it a nuisance, they ask if there is anything else you might want?

THE POINT BEING you may well find yourself at cross purposes with your cloud storage provider

 

[Stacey K]

My mom is still using QB 2008 on her desktop LOL My sister and I set it up for her when she bought her first computer.

 

[netsol]

i look back fondly on the days of quickbooks 1999.
much like MS word '99 it did ONLY what you told it to do, not what the design team thinks you would want, IF ONLY YOU WERE A SMART ENOUGH USER