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Do stickers need to be laminated?

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by bernina, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. bernina

    bernina New Member

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    Do decals need to be laminated?

    Hello,

    Do stickers (promotional) need to be laminated using ecosolvent inks?

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  2. omgsideburns

    omgsideburns Very Active Member

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    Only if you want them to last longer?

    If they are for a customer, I'd say yeah.. People tend to expect stickers to last forever and a day.
     
  3. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

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    technically no, the inks will hold up for a few years without lamination, but it's a good practice to laminate, if only to make them thicker and easier to apply
     
  4. edgette

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    Depends. Most of that type of print I don't laminate. The main reason being is to keep the cost down for the customer. Price seems to be the more important factor with promo goods.
     
  5. tsgstl

    tsgstl Active Member

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    What he said ^^

    We lam certain decals, mostly ones that will get rubbed against, hard hat decals whatnot. Or decals that will go through heavy washing or see chemicals
     
  6. ucmj22

    ucmj22 Very Active Member

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    ...stickers? Is this Edna?
     
  7. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    Only lam when requested after explaining options to client. Promotional items are just that and lam makes them too expensive in most situations.
     
  8. Sankalp

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    We are making decals , print-cut stickers for about a year now and one day i register on signs101 and suddenly come to know about lamination.

    We use eco-solvent inks. Do these also need lamination?

    And if i am only cutting a design, white colored, on a 3164, how long should it last widout lamination? Outdoor. Rain/35-40 degree celsius.
     
  9. TresL

    TresL Very Active Member

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    I lam 99% of all our decals. Cost a few cents more, but MUCH happier customers in the long run.
     
  10. ChicagoGraphics

    ChicagoGraphics Major Contributor

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    Stickers no - Decals yes
     
  11. TresL

    TresL Very Active Member

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    we only do decals, stickers are for kids...:)
     
  12. rydods

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    We laminate just about everything. For decals or stickers, if youre going to put transfer tape over them laminate instead. It makes the prints look better in most cases, non laminated prints scratch easier and the obvious...they last longer and are easier to apply. Here's a challenge, do a 24" x 24" full bleed print and try to apply it to a substrate without lam. Even with transfer tape it sucks!
     
  13. bernina

    bernina New Member

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    Sorry for the confusion using "sticker" instead of "decal". That happens when someone knows a basic english. :tongue:

    Thank you all for the replies, I will lam then. The question is:

    - Hot or cold lamination?
    - Monomeric or polymeric vinyl?

    :thankyou:
     
  14. rydods

    rydods Member

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    Hot will avoid "silvering" small hardly noticable air pockets but Cold is just fine. Cheaper machine than a hot. The air goes away anyway.
     
  15. S'N'S

    S'N'S Active Member

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    Stickers here, decals is an American thing. OP's from Spain so maybe they use the term sticker too.
     
  16. Cale Frederick

    Cale Frederick Member

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    It's not bad unless you are trying to mount it straight off the printer. We make all of our foam core and corrugated products this way. Just let them dry about an hour. This past week we did two 4x8 full bleed prints on ultra board with no lam.

    To the topic though... Some decals we laminate and others we do not. The best thing to do is educate the customer and charge accordingly. I found an awesome vinyl for unlaminated decals to! It is from lexjet. Simple adhesive 5mil semi-matte vinyl. It rocks for decals, but not much else... The thickness makes it easy to apply even without lam. I still see some from about 2years ago that look about the same as the day we made them.
     
  17. TresL

    TresL Very Active Member

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    stickers vs. decals is just a saying I have here to help customers understand cost differences.
     
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