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Discussion in 'General Software' started by WildWestDesigns, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Oct 26, 2019 #1
    WildWestDesigns

    WildWestDesigns Major Contributor

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    I'm sure that there are some that use Google's services. Be it Google Drive or Gmail etc.

    Just saw this.

    Just wanted to pass this along for those that may be using some of these services that may see a price hike.
     
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    yeah- I can see the free for now services moving to small monthly fees. people will just say - yeah - I will just pay a few bucks.
    pull quote: If 10 percent of Gmail users sign up for the new $1.99-a-month Google One subscription, that would generate almost $2.4 billion a year in annual recurring sales for the company.

    Thats amazing- but I personally have pics and files etc backed up on duplicated hard drives- but were talking terabytes.
     
  3. Oct 26, 2019 #3
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    Oh - I went to check terabyte pricing - and this happened LOL!
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  4. Oct 26, 2019 #4
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    From Bloomberg; "On April Fools' Day 2004, Google made a splash when it introduced Gmail, a free online email service."

    It was April Fool's Day, indeed.
     
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    Texas_Signmaker

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    $20/yrs. for 100GB cloud storage is cheap insurance.

    Used to use Carbonite but even that was $70/yr.
     
  6. Oct 26, 2019 #6
    WildWestDesigns

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    That's what I do. My phone gets full (I still use a Canon for most of my pics though as well) and I store it on my personal NAS server.

    Looking from a pure monetary perspective I can see that as being "cheap".
     
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    So long as they don't cancel the unlimited plans I'll stay happy.

    Can't beat unlimited data being backed up for $15 a month. I have 90tb up right now and not one complaint from them. (Technically you need 5 users... So it'd be $75 a month)
     
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    90tb??? You know you dont have to SAVE all those red tube videos, they will be there tomorrow.
     
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    Lol... this made me laugh
     
  10. Oct 26, 2019 #10
    WildWestDesigns

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    But true.

    Let me try to put it in perspective as to why I say this.

    I have 3 different NAS servers at my place (business, personal, game (hobby html5 game dev here), I have offsite backups of these servers at offsite servers (sister, niece, and parent's place; excess storage they get to store their own files and they can't see my partitions).

    So, yes doing all that, the time that it takes to setup (although not difficult with copious online instruction) and it does cost for all of the various components. However, where it pays off, for me anyway, is the fact that I know I control the endpoints that I have purposely selected for those files to reside. While the little bit of time that all those servers (not at the same time) have access to the WAN they do have the potential for getting breached or in transit to the next server. I don't have to worry about those breaches and have to wonder what happens at the target servers.

    Keep in mind there was a data backup service provider that backs up dental records that no only were they breached, but their servers were used as a typhoid mary to infect their clients computers with ransomware. That was just this year by the way, not really all that long ago.

    "You" have some storage places that have opened up vulnerabilities in their apache server (well documented and turned off by default) to do some settings tweaking and forget to turn those vulnerabilities off again. Let's not forget those places that have people's data that left keys to the encrypted files right next to where those encrypted files were.

    Don't get me wrong, I do use some Google services, some integrate quite nicely with my OS, but I'm highly selective of what I put out on there. My it's too little too late, but it does make me feel just a little bit better.
     
  11. Oct 26, 2019 #11
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    Simple solution is to use encryption. 90% of my stuff is encrypted on Google drive, using open source third party software so not even Google knows what's on the drive.

    Unless a vulnerability is discovered in 2048 bit encryption... All my data is safe from prying eyes, until quantum computing comes out. I'm pretty confident Google, or anyone else can't see whatever I decide they shouldn't see....data wise, their information prying eyes probably knows everything about me already.

    All my important stuff is backed up locally on a 100tb server, just incase something happens to Google. And a third copy on blackblaze, just incase. I don't trust everything in one place.
     
  12. Oct 26, 2019 #12
    ikarasu

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    You never know ;)

    Most of my collection is Blu-ray backups. I try to make my home as "smart" and convenient ad possible... Which means not having to get up to switch disks, or trusting my 6 year old not to scratch them.

    Every Blu-ray I buy gets ripped to an iso, and added to plex. Then I can stream/watch wherever and whenever I want, and not bring my bluray collection everywhere with me.

    The best part is telling Google to play something and it'll find it and play it. It's the little things in life that make it worth living..:D
     
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    Lol, makes me think of "doomsday preppers".. Save the internet porn just in case!!:roflmao:

    I never really understood BUYING movies to keep and replay. Usually I watch something once and I'm done...forever. SOMETIMES I might go back and rewatch something that was really good but that's rare. Come to think of it, we haven't had physical media in my house for years.

    This spring someone gave us a parenting DVD...between a TV downstairs and our laptops we didn't have anyway to play the DVD. It's still sitting under the TV table collecting dust.
     
  14. Oct 26, 2019 #14
    WildWestDesigns

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    It's not just them taking a look at what's in my files. If that was the sole reason, then I wouldn't be as worried, because encryption, especially when not using the backup service provider's own tools handles a lot of that fear.

    Ironically I do believe Google is working on that as we speak. I can't remember what the name of the chipset that they associate with quantum computing is.

    You know, backups lend themselves to that doomsday mentality. Yet, I do believe that it is just considered good computing practice to have not one backup, but at bare minimum 2 and at different physical locations.

    I've always subscribed to the "better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it" mentality. It has served me well, then just flying by the seat of my pants hoping for the best.



    Everyone is different. Too each their own.
     
  15. Oct 26, 2019 #15
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    Mainly tv shows for me... I don't really watch many movies. Though if it's a movie i really like,I usually buy it to support the movie. I think I own maybe 40-50 blurays and hundreds of series.

    I'd like to say it's for my kid. But he spends more time watching netflixnkids shows than blurays these days. So when my wife asks why we're spending thousands on blurays and hard drives, I blame the kid.

    I have so many blurays I don't even know what I have anymore. At this point it's more about having a big collection than it Is about being useful it's grown too big to stop now!

    https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Storage-Holder-Hanger-Sleeves/dp/B00CDWQK7A I've got 3 of these almost full between blurays, and old dvds I'm waiting for them to re release to bluray.

    It's mainly useless.. But I have a 120" projector and really nice surround sound system downstairs, it's almost like going to the theater... Always fun when a buddy comes over.


    And your point lends credit to my collection too.. We never touch our blurays. If it's one I didn't backup yet... It's usually "well watch it once it's on plex...". Think of it as having your own netflix with just shows and movies you want to watch, including just released blurays. The convenience of it and having a ton of shows all in one spot, as well as saving where you left off... It's great. I only watch netflix when a new original comes out, everything else is plex these days.
     
  16. Oct 26, 2019 #16
    WildWestDesigns

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    My dad was always the movie buff, and his man cave reflected that. This was before home theaters were a big thing and no one was really installing it, so that was something that he had to do himself and had to deal with all that trial and error along with it.

    That kinda rubbed off on me, but I always went more towards audio drama, everything streams throughout the house and at my office as well. I'll stream it all, but it will be my own person collection for the most part. I have built some web apps that stream from the internet (may make it an browser extension), but for the most part, I like to pick and choose what I'm watching/listening to.

    Nowadays too, everyone is getting in on the "streaming wars" and they all want their own proprietary service that "you" can only get their content from them. And with the recent vogue of remaking everything, what I would be interested in will probably no longer be available on their own service.
     
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