full bleeds are curling

[rydods]

Hey everyone!

I am printing and cutting full bleed 1" dia. circles. my customer says that it's bubbling around the edges. Is this because of the full bleed? If I use a high tac vinyl like Arlon 8000 will this fix the problem or should we just avoid the full bleeds? Thanks,

ry

 

[eahicks]

Are you printing and cutting them immediately after? Or are you laminating then running through cut afterwards?
If you print and cut right after, best thing to do is pause your printer and let the prints sit for a while before running the cut. Best solution for that I have found.

 

[ucmj22]

what is the material youre using? what is it applied to?

 

[jfiscus]

more info is needed:
what printer?
what material?
what laminate?
what surface are they applied to?

so far, sounds like the wrong material...

 

[rydods]

Printing on Kapco laminating with Kapco right after print then cutting right away. Could it be because Kapco is cheap? Being applied to poker chips

 

[rydods]

Printer is a roland versacamm sp 300

 

[ucmj22]

never heard of kapco, is it calendared, high performance, wall vinyl?

 

[rydods]

Kapco is a calendared digital vinyl

 

[eahicks]

Good old Krapco.

 

[Gino]

Is this technically a digital media or are you just using ordinary calendared vinyl ??

We used Kapco years ago and stopped because they never delivered what we asked for. They were always substituting things and never letting us know. The other problem is.... almost anything over 10 yards was spliced and that hurt in reflectives and large size rolls. They're excuse or remedy was to give you an extra two yards and that was supposed to fix the problem.

I truly think you're using inferior products.

 

[petepaz]

i am not familar with kapco or krapco(haha) but i have noticed printing with the rolands if i have a bleed it's best to let it sit over night or at least a few hours before cutting also don't weed the vinyl both things help with the curling

 

[2B]

Never heard of that vinyl before, we do have some TOTAL CHEAP CR@P we use for the tight wad/weekend signs that curls on of full bleeds.

Suggestions;

get better vinyl is you are going to wanting any sort of life span.

print, dry, laminate, cut if you are going to stay with this brand

 

[petesign]

Get better vinyl. Let it dry 24 hours and then laminate with good laminate. then cut. If you use cast vinyl and crappy calendared laminate, its going to curl. If you use cast laminate and cheap vinyl, its going to curl.

How long do these need to last? You might be able to get away with something like IJ-35 and a decent calendared laminate. I really like R-Tape's laminate, its fairly inexpensive (about $200 for a 54"x50 yd roll) and has done just about everything I have asked it to do within reason.

Spend the extra nickel and charge another quarter.

 

[rjssigns]

Here's the problem: Printing on Kapco laminating with Kapco right after print then cutting right away.

Can't print then lam right away. Period.

We print on Kapco, and with full coverage full bleed it will contract slightly while drying. Nature of the beast.

 

[boxerbay]

please buy decent media.

you need to let it sit 24hours before laminating. also on such a small piece use a calendared vinyl. all the cheap stuff will shrink back and leave adhesive residue ring around the edge. it is a small piece that will be looked at closely. it is not some large sign out in the yard. the small up close stuff people will notice any little problem and come back to complain.

 

[ChicagoGraphics]

Regardless what your using, let dry for 24 hours then laminate then cut problem will be solved.