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Full coverage frosting, large window

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by Optic, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. Optic

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    Hey guys,

    I'm at a loss. We just completed a massive office install of 24", 18" and 6" stripes and we have one piece left to go - the boardroom windows.

    We have two windows that require full coverage - 49.5" by 91" in size.

    If course there's a nice 2" deep frame around that window. We're using the Avery frosting for this.
    For the life of me (after two botched attempts) I can't get these on the window. Applying wet by trying to pull the premask off is causing us to stretch the material where we're holding onto it. I am sure I have a facepalm moment when one of you answers this, but being so busy right now I just can't think my way through this. Help and ideas are appreciated!

    Cheers!
     
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  2. ChicagoGraphics

    ChicagoGraphics Major Contributor

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    Are these one solid peice or does it have lettering on it?
     
  3. the graphics co

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    why use premask if it is a solid piece? It would be easier and alleviate your problem if you didn't have to remove anything when you get it on the window. Maybe i am missing something?
     
  4. Optic

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    this is one solid piece of frosting with no graphics on it at all. Complete window coverage.
     
  5. ChicagoGraphics

    ChicagoGraphics Major Contributor

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    Don't put any mask on it, just wet and apply
     
  6. eahicks

    eahicks Magna Cum Laude - School of Hard Knocks

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    What he said
     
  7. FireSprint.com

    FireSprint.com Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing

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    Use a felt squeegee. We did a straight edge cut about 1/16th" In
     

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  8. Optic

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    While I appreciate the advice to install wet, I've tried installing wet and am looking for a deeper level of advice. Regarding those nice panels in the office, there is no frame around those windows and they're not full coverage. I could install what I see in those photos no problem. We've already installed three full rolls worth of frosting in this office. It's the big windows with the full coverage that are stumping me.
     
  9. slipperyfrog

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    Call a professional window tinter or install like you would window tint.
     
  10. Browner

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    What does it matter if there's a frame?
     
  11. Drip Dry

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    That's the deepest you need. Install wet without mask. Use a large rubber window squeegee from the local hardware store to squeegee out the bubbles. Works great. Don't over think it.
     
  12. S'N'S

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    I have done deep recessed windows (last ones were 5" deep) and just measured to make sure the windows were square and precut the vinyl to size. Use plenty of app fluid so you can slide it around and felt squeegee down starting from the top. Found that an extra set of hands were handy as the wet vinyl wanted to slide down the window all the time...... NO mask...
     
  13. OlsonSigns601

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    So did they have you install the fog because to many people were running into the glass walls?
     
  14. jkdbjj

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    snap some pics of your problem area, it might help us understand
     
  15. cdiesel

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    It sounds to me like you're able to apply it okay, but are having problems removing the premask?

    Do like they're saying above, don't mask it!
     
  16. Optic

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    I haven't tried to premask this, I've been attempting the install wet. getting the backing paper off and getting the 8' high panel to the window without creasing it or stretching it where we're holding onto it is the issue. Once this is wet and on the window I'm sure this won't be a problem.
     
  17. J Hill Designs

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    cut off 3-4" of the top backing, install that dry, and use it as a hinge
     
  18. lexsigns

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    Did similar- used rapid tac, no mask and need 2 people( or more) I had on large table, pulled backing off upsidedown sprayed THEN we picked up to apply.
    Oh start in middle to squeegee(top center all down )then do each side equally. Frosted is very forgiving wet, dries perfect usually...
     
  19. MGraphics

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    You must have Mark breathing down you neck on this one now!!!Dont know if I can offer advice to a the company that bid under us :) I have installed many large pannels and did the same as everyone suggested 2 people no premask and lots of juice... good luck... hey look on the bright side it is a nice day out and its friday!!!
     
  20. peavey123

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    If you ever have etched vinyl that you need to mask because of contour cuts. Apply the vinyl, let it sit for a bit then soak the pre-mask. It seems to weaken the mask's adhesive and comes off without peeling up the graphic. It might come off in strips but in the end, if you have intricate graphics it makes the job easier IMHO.
     
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