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Fumes = Bloody nose

Colin

Colin

New Member
I've had my Roland Versa-Camm for nearly 4 years now, and have done a few big jobs without any problems with the fumes (I always attempt ventilate the shop as best as possible). Unfortunately I now have a slightly bloody nose after doing a pile of election signs, printing through two full 54" rolls in 2-3 days. I am a little perplexed by this, as I used a powerful exhaust fan (intermittently) which is located in the back wall, and a man-door open for all of it. (Roland Eco-Sol Max inks).

During the marathon, I sensed that my nasal passages were a little dry, and ever-so-slightly irritated, and now they're producing a little blood when I blow my nose, but not profusely bleeding.

I'm concerned about the long-term health effects, but also concerned given that I've got a lot more printing to do this week.

Is this just a minor, temporary irritation, or something to be quite concerned about?
 
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AF

New Member
MSDS sheets are a good place to start, you need to know what you have been breathing and the suggested medical response. Good luck, and maybe get a good respirator for big jobs in the future.
 
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player

New Member
When I was in the thick of it spray painting Lacryl, screen printing, One Shot etc. my nose used to get so raw and sore...

Do not rub your nose when working with your prints.

Polysporin that comes in a tube and looks like Vaseline was the best thing for healing and relief.

I also agree with ventilation and masks.
 
John Butto

John Butto

New Member
Air Scrubber

You should invest in one of these. It filters out the VOC which are heavier than air out of the room and will help you out from the bleeding which is caused by irritation from the solvents.
 
Colin

Colin

New Member
John Butto said:
You should invest in an air scrubber. It filters out the VOCs which are heavier than air, out of the room and will help you out from the bleeding which is caused by irritation from the solvents.
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A good idea for those larger jobs - thanks. Does anyone know of a good make & model that isn't too expensive? My shop is ~700 sq. ft. with 10' ceiling. I'll call around tomorrow to see if one can be rented as well.
 
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TimToad

Active Member
I'm at a loss over how any reasonable amount of efficiency could possibly make doing those in house on sticky, even low cost Aspire and mounting that many signs to coro or whatever, cost effective compared to just outsourcing them to somebody with a freakin' flatbed.

You must love to mount and not have much else going on this time of year.

Ahhhhhh....... I loves my flatbed. Its all paid for, runs like a charm and sacks of ink last a long time.
 
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TimToad

Active Member
So, you printed over 1,300 sq. feet of material in a couple of days in a 700 square foot space with rudimentary exhaust and are just starting to wonder about ill effects?

Dude, that's an enormous amount of ink to be laying in that tiny of a space in such a short time.

Forget your nose, go have your head examined.
 
Colin

Colin

New Member
TimToad said:
So, you printed over 1,300 sq. feet of material in a couple of days in a 700 square foot space with rudimentary exhaust and are just starting to wonder about ill effects?

Dude, that's an enormous amount of ink to be laying in that tiny of a space in such a short time.

Forget your nose, go have your head examined.
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Thanks for the kind words. The exhaust isn't rudimentary. It's a 14" fan which, when on, is so powerful that one cannot close the man-door without serious effort. Perhaps I didn't have it on enough, these things can sneak up on ya, but lessoned learned. I'm printing more now with it on full-time, and it's all good.
 
GAC05

GAC05

Quit buggin' me
Colin,
not sure how this filters the air but it might help.
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wayne k
guam usa
 

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TimToad

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Don't take me seriously. Its all in good hearted ribbing and razzing.

I just thought you needed a little wake up call to clear out the fuzz you've been under the last few days.

We all do what we have to do to keep shoving the work out the door. Its great that you managed to wrestle some political work away from the online hacks. Any one of us who can convince our customers, especially politicians to stay local is a stud in my book.

I just took a hit today from the president of our local youth football league who told me that despite the fact that my predecessor had given away youth sports related banners away at 50% off the going rate for the last seven years and now we're holding to that also, that our prices are too high to expect parents and sponsors to pay.

So, my predecessor who has done hundreds if not thousands of below market value banners over the years thinking it would endear him to the community and in my five months since taking over the company, having done dozens and dozens ourselves, we still can't achieve what my predecessor envisioned. Some people are just cheap and short sighted. When I explained that we pay a living wage and benefits and give back to our community in many ways, the dude laughed and and acted like I was some kind of a chump. He'd pay whatever it costs to get his kid a new piece of equipment, but the banners that he'll put up to show his league and civic pride can only be done by some other cheapskate in some far off state undoubtedly paying its help below market value wages.
 
Colin

Colin

New Member
^^^ Yup, it's like that all over.

"There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey."


This statement is also found in this lengthier version:

There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.
 
FireSprint.com

FireSprint.com

Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing
We have alot of ventilation. Fortunately we get pretty slow during the coldest months here, otherwise we would need to buy an air handler / air makeup unit to replace the exhausted air with warm replacement air. I'm not sure about an air scrubber, most everyone I have spoken with on the matter suggest the only way to really deal with it is to bring in fresh air.

My nose has been acting funny too recently, could it just be coincidence with the change in weather?
 
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