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fumes from versa cam

Discussion in 'Roland' started by Dave Stacey, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. Dave Stacey

    Dave Stacey Member

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    Hi
    I was wondering about the fumes on the VersaCam eco system.
    If I purchase one, it would have to be setup in a basement with one window witch it wouldn't be close to.
    I 've lots of question but I find most of the answers on this forum.

    Thanks

    Dave
     
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  2. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    I would figure out a way to get air in and out... eco solvent is still solvent
     
  3. RobGF

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    If you're not able to exchange air and you're serious about this you might want to check out some of the products from Island Clean Air. We use one of their dusters with a hot-solvent printer and it really makes a difference. I would think with eco-sovent it would certainly provide you with peace of mind.
     
  4. Dave Stacey

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    Thanks

    At the trade show I got the"no problem" response.
     
  5. txsurfer

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    I printed my first job on my new 54" Versa Camm today, no odor what so ever!!!
     
  6. Bigdawg

    Bigdawg Just Me

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    If you are looking for something that will take the smell out of the air, try this: http://www.ecoquestintl.com/productguide/product_guide.asp# For a basement you probably wouldn't need a commercial unit.

    I work with a lot of print shops and the bigger they are the more they smell. Ecoquest has a huge in-house print shop, running 4-color presses, prepress, the whole nine yards - and you would never have any idea that they were there by the smell. There simply isn't any odor. I have seen what their products can do and if we were to get anything that uses solvent inks, this would be a must-have.
     
  7. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    it don't have to smell to kill you!

    I have a Mutoh and It is in it's own room with OK ventilation.

    I would not want to be in the same room all day even if I smell nothing
     
  8. gtjet

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    Ditto, we have the sp 300 and you can smell it at times. We do not have commercial ventilation but we do have ventilation and would not be without it. Have read way too much on the effects of VOC's to take something like that for granted.
     
  9. High Octane

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    I've been running mine since April..No tumors to speak of yet.
     
  10. Dave Stacey

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    Thanks
    All these suggestions help.
    I don't know if I'm buying yet.I'm getting a lot of pressure for large format, short term advertising, & practically next day service.(I forgot cheap) I've done well with my Edge2 & the last payment is due Feb. It sound like most like the Roland & suggest the 54".

    Thanks
     
  11. Derf

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    I would still get it.... just get some air down there
     
  12. ChiknNutz

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    I have been printing with my SP-540V since the end of July with the Triangle inks. When doing heavy printing with lots of coverage, I can definitely smell it, usually it is quite noticeable. I am in a 20 x 36 shop with a proper heating system that moves a lot of air, but I can still smell it often. Not sure how some of you don't notice any smell unless it is in a large room. It is not overwhelming, but it is definitely there.
     
  13. Ken

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    I use my sp300 in a small shop, and though I can smell it a little, it's not objectionable. Ken
     
  14. blackbok

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    We just started running a 545 EX (eco sol) in our small shop, and on big prints there's a noticeable odor. people walk in and wince. I am becoming concerened, especially coming home two days in a row with a headache.
     
  15. Barry

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    The 545EX is a bit worse with smell as its putting out more ink faster.. 6 heads flying across spitting out ink...
     
  16. advsign22

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    I have not gotten a headache from the fumes in my shop. I actually like the smell it puts in the shop (smells like money to me), never had a customer complain but I only have the SP-300.
    Ken
     
  17. TC49010

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    Ok since we are on this subject of fumes I have a few questions and hopefully some one can provide some insight!
    I am considering getting a versacam but now I am concerned about the fumes and having open exposed customer garments etc to the fumes of any kind. Right now I do embroidery and Tons of thermoflex and vinyl. Would I need to have the versacam in a totally seperate enclosed area with ventalation as oposed to out in the open running with all the other equipment?

    Who has the best deal on the versacam now?

    Thanks for any input!!
    Trixie
     
  18. Bradster941

    Bradster941 Verboten

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    Lets look at what is important here:

    By design, a typical house is designed to have 2 to 3 air changes per hour, and that is a typical residential structure, normal environment conditions.

    Now, add something that adds an excessive amount of pollutants, and your fresh air makeup simply must increase to maintain an exceptable air quality.

    ADVSIGN,
    totally ridicules post so we won’t even go there.

    GraphiXtreme

    Moving a lot of air is not the same as bringing in Fresh outside air, (referred to as Make Up Air), to maintain the air quality within the envelope. Your system that moves allot of air is only moving the air within the structure.

    Short story is, no matter how much money your printer is making you, it really isn’t going to matter while your laying on your rented death bed at the hospital.

    Make sure you have proper ventilation.... :smile:
     
  19. Color Dude

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    The more heat you apply the higher the VOC's, this is also true for coverage aswell. Even the MAX Inks have an odor. The new Mutoh Ultra Inks, even have a odor. Of course they would, they are manyfactured from the same plant that the MAX inks are. DUH!!

    There is noway to get away from the odor issue with any Eco inks, I was a sheetfed pressman for 15 years, I smelled all kinds of toxic fumes for years. Like anything else, if you do it long enough, you become immune to the smell. That doesnt mean it is not doing damage. When I run a Toucan LT printer for more than 3 hours non stop I have the worse headache. Even with the Captive air system.

    Im tellin ya, it is doing damage.

    Happy Printing
     
  20. Scott Reynolds

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    The ISA in Vegas this year, I had a headache 10 min after getting there! :help:
    It smelled like people were painting cars in there.
     
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