Good material for unlaminated decals

[Davis25r]

Good evening all,

As the title says, I am looking for everyones recommendation on some good material for doing unlaminated work.

I have a L26500 and mainly do work in the motorsports realm and laminate everything. But I do get those jobs where laminate is overkill and not needed.

I primarily run Substance PM-2755 and pair it with PL-3150.

But the PM-2755 is so thin when not laminated.

So what does everyone like running for non-lam jobs?


This is probably asked frequently so I apologize. Navigating this site for older forums seems to be a POA on my end.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

Use 3755 for everything and drop the 2755

 

[Johnny Best]

Who makes 3755?

 

[Boudica]

haven't tried Substance... but we use Oracal for our "cheap" stickers. We don't really do cheap stickers.... but something came up when it didn't make sense to use 3M. We were doing like 10K candle labels at the time.

 

[Davis25r]

Use 3755 for everything and drop the 2755

I'll order a roll and give it a try. Much of a difference with the 3755 vs the 2755 besides is being 1mil thicker? Still pairing it with the PL-3150?

 

[Notarealsignguy]

Every little bit counts. I use a fair amount of 3755 with 3150 laminate.

 

[Notarealsignguy]

Who makes 3755?

It's the thicker substance print vinyl with air egress.

 

[victor bogdanov]

I've printed on Oracal 651 with roland inks, looks great after years in TX weather. GF222 for thicker stickers, looks great after a few years. Just about any cheap vinyl will hold up for years using OEM inks. cheap briteline vinyl from grimco great too

 

[brdesign]

I use a 6mil vinyl for unlaminated decals

 

[Goatshaver]

I've been using the Substance 3755 for unlaminated items I might do on occasion. If not I will use a 6mil GF gloss or matte if the 3755 is too thin for someone.

 

[weyandsign]

The price for Substance is great, except the air egress vinyl still can get air bubbles in it when applying, that's the only downside of it IMO.

 

[McDonald Signs]

6mil brightline at grimco for cheap unlaminated decals

 

[Joseph44708]

General Formulations 220
I print then cut 12 to 16 Rolls per week.

 

[Coachdon]

I use a 6mil vinyl for unlaminated decals

What brand?

 

[Joseph44708]

General Formulations 220

 

[brdesign]

What brand?

I've used Kapco, Briteline, General Formulations, and Oracal. They all work about the same.

 

[Coachdon]

I've used Kapco, Briteline, General Formulations, and Oracal. They all work about the same.

With no laminate? How long it last? What GF Vinyl?

 

[brdesign]

With no laminate? How long it last? What GF Vinyl?

I think they rated for about 2-3 years depending on the ink you use

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[RMarshall]

Not to digress, but while we're on the topic of laminated vs. unlamented decals are there any rules of thumb as to when a decal should or shouldn't be laminated?
(other than the obvious reason of longevity)

 

[victor bogdanov]

With no laminate? How long it last? What GF Vinyl?

I use GF222, have some decals that are over 3 years old in TX weather. Look new unlaminated with genuine Roland inks