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Got the ram, what about the rest of the machine?

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by flat rock stan, May 8, 2007.

  1. flat rock stan

    flat rock stan Member

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    The guys from Pacific Coast set up my XC 540 today and I love it but we are using an older HP machine that I generally run video editing programs on. I went to Fry’s electronics last Saturday to buy a new computer that I plan to use Flexi, Photoshop and Illustrator to design wraps and send to the new printer to be done in a timely manner. From my last post I was sure I needed 4 gig ram and after that I just figured something “fast”! The salesman totally confused me and himself giving me a headache by talking loud about a lot of stuff I did not understand. I had been working all day and was worn out so I left with no computer and a not very clear idea on what I needed. Soooooo to expand on my last post, just what should I be looking for and staying away from? I have already decided to replace vista on any machine I decide on. Some of the rebuilt machines at Fry’s had XP but I don’t know if they suite my needs. Here is a link to Fry’s and some of the desktops. http://shop2.outpost.com/search?cat=-59324&pType=pDisplay
    I was kind of looking at a couple of Fry brand machines towards the bottom of the list.
    What you think?

    Thanks
    Stan
     
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  2. cinemasign.grafix

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    XPS 710
    (System Identifier: DD97L1VH)

    XPS 710 Tower: Intel Core 2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB) Black Chassis
    Genuine Windows XP Media Center 2005
    System Price : $2,159.00

    Operating System
    Genuine Windows XP Media Center 2005
    Memory
    2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)
    Hard Disk Drive
    160 GB SATA Hard Drive (10K RPM)
    Video
    256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic, w/Dolby Digital 5.1
    Scratch & Dent
    Scratch & Dent
    Base
    XPS 710 Tower: Intel Core 2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB) Black Chassis
    Media Bay
    48X CD RW/DVD Combo Drive
    16X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
    Software Upgrade
    Microsoft Works 8.5
    Hardware Upgrade
    USB Keyboard
    Hardware is Microsoft Vista Capable
    ATI Theater 650 PRO Combo Analog/Digital TV Tuner with Remote Control
    Dell Optical USB 2-button Mouse
     
  3. flat rock stan

    flat rock stan Member

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    Wow! Nice machine....... Did you add some of the stuff for gaming or is it all for work? I have been thinking about Dell. Bought my mom one last year.
    Stan
     
  4. Pro Signs & Graphix

    Pro Signs & Graphix Very Active Member

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    Can you assemble a machine?
     
  5. flat rock stan

    flat rock stan Member

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    Not personally but my son in-law can………….. hmmmmm
     
  6. cinemasign.grafix

    cinemasign.grafix Member

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    That was on the Dell outlet site last night. You might want to keep an eye out there for a deal. You have to check all the time , the good one's go fast.
     
  7. player

    player Major Contributor

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    I just bought a new pc. Actually I bought 2 the same. I find this really helps when problems arise. A complete set of parts...

    So here is what I got for $620 canadian, about $480 usd:

    HP Media PC
    XP Media version included
    intel core 2 duo 6300
    2 gigs ram
    320 gig hard drive (will add 2nd drive)
    250 meg on board graphics (will change this to dual head)
    card reader 13 types
    light scribe dvd burner
    remote control for media stuff
    video inputs, cable, dvi, etc
    hard disk video recording
    modem, network card
    etc

    they are referbished, but I am a risk taker. I have a buddy that works at hp and he said the referbs are fine.

    Is this a deal?

    Player
     
  8. Craig Sjoquist

    Craig Sjoquist Major Contributor

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    forget vista for atleast a year ....dual or quad core is the leading edge lots of hard drive with back up hard drive oh yes 4 gig of ram is a bonus, couple of monitors 3 if ya can....
    freedom is not free
     
  9. Spud

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  10. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    Just had a new machine built and delivered on Weds.. I haven't had a huge amount of time to play with it, but I opened a few different PSD files.. one was 293mb and the other 514mb. The 293mb file was open IMMEDIATELY. Literally NO delay. The 514mb file took about three seconds. I don't have all the exact specs in front of me, but here's a little about it:

    Core2 Xtreme 2.93Ghz
    4gb ram
    SAS running raid 0 (3 drives with a hot spare, total 4 drives)
    SAS running raid 0 (2 drives) setup as a swap file for windows and scratch disk for PS

    We have another Core2 Xtreme 2.93Ghz machine on an older motherboard, but without the fancy drives.. Nowhere near as close as this one. The drive setup was spendy, and probably a little overboard, but I definitely believe that drive speed is crucial, and was the weak link on our other machine.
     
  11. Pro Signs & Graphix

    Pro Signs & Graphix Very Active Member

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    Congrats Chris. SAS is sweet!
     
  12. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    Thanks! I noticed you had it, and that's what sparked the conversation between my computer guy and I about the importance of the drives. It was expensive, but I think we'll probably end up putting a different drive array in the old machine too.
     
  13. flat rock stan

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    I ended up having a machine built here in town by CTL. The latest greatest Intel duel core processor with 4 gig ram, two 500 gig hard drives, one 26 inch monitor and one 32 inch with lots of neat goodies thrown in! My son who was legally blind for several years will be working on the machine so I went over board on the monitors. We just got our Roland XC 540 this week so we can’t wait to get the new computer.
     
  14. Valley_Impressions

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    That one looks expensive just for being an XPS, 6 months ago i bougth a Dimension with the same specs but with a 250GB hard drive and 20" screen and printer for $1,500 including shipping and tax.
    And then i bang my head to the wall when i found this site www.cyberpowerpc.com you can build your own custom pc with great specs and for 2/3 of the cost or less if you now what you are doing.
     
  15. Browner

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    You haven't been to the bank lately, have you?
     
  16. johnnysigns

    johnnysigns Very Active Member

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    any recommendations for additional HD's and Scratch disks on my setup?

    dell e520
    2.13ghz
    2gb ram @667mhz
    500gb 7200 serial ata drive
     
  17. Chad.

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  18. Trimtint

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    Were droppin in a new one also

    M2N-E Asus board
    ATHLON 64 X2 Dual-Core 6000+ (3.0GHz) SOCKET AM2
    8 gigs KINGSTON_DDR2 667 4- 2 gig sticks
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB harddrive
    ASUS 256meg video
    Thermaltake Soprano case
    Thermaltake TR2 500W Power Supply
    Lite on DVD+RW optical recorder
    Windows XP pro
    Microsoft Mouse and keyboard
    $1350.00


    I can help with CPU's dem things is easy to work on

    Snapper
     
  19. Trimtint

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    Remember dont buy into vista. MILLIONS of companys just finally did away with 2000. there is no way that MS can drop support for atleast another 5-7 years. There would be to many "big biz's" that just would not do it. 2000 was supported for 7 1/2 years. Somethin to think about.

    Snapper
     
  20. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    XP doesn't do anything with more than 3gb or ram, so you're wasting money installing the 8gb, unless you're planning on upgrading to vista, which I wouldn't do quite yet.
    I cannot stress enough that hd speed is important. When you're running at 3Ghz processor speed with enough ram, the drives become the weak link.
     
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