GRAPHTEC opinions

[Fuzzbuster]

ive owned 4 Graphtecs over the years , now have an option of buying a FC 8600 or $2K more for the FC 9000, thoughts?? Ive had issues for YEARS with thick lam and reflective registration marks... New HP / Summa cutter ?? .. Thanx in advance

 

[eahicks]

Same as you, Graphtecs forever. Summa changed the game. Worth every extra penny.

 

[Andy D]

I used to swear by Graphtecs, but we bought two lower end plotters & they seemed like they were China made cr@p,
one died in 6 months, never again. I love Mimaki plotters and I hear Summa's are awesome.

 

[Fuzzbuster]

Same as you, Graphtecs forever. Summa changed the game. Worth every extra penny.

Which one bud ? The S2 ?? or T2

 

[ikarasu]

The Fc9000 is supposed to be way better at reflective. We just ordered one in - I havent been able to use it (Arrives in march...) But some of the features seem nice.

The whole reverse marks seems like a good idea - Not sure if summa has it... but I imagine this makes any material easy to read by the arms.

Though the main benefit to me... would be the take up. I understand the summas takeup is wind only - and it'll wind only when a panel is done cutting... While the graphtec will wind and unwind, making its take up option a bit better.

But again, just what I've read/heard... Still awaiting ours to come in, we ordered 2 weeks ago... and we're told early march, apparently graphtec cant keep up with the demand.

 

[HecklnDecalr]

We have 2 Summa's, 1 tangential and one drag. A Graphtec and an old Roland drag as well. The Summa's are amazing. The old Roland is our workhorse and the graphtec gets used about 5 times a year now. Had issues with the usb port going bad twice on it. had to re-solder the port on the motherboard. It doesn't cut horribly, it's just not as easy to load and use as the other plotters.

 

[ikarasu]

Oh man, I'd jump on a takeup reel for my graphtec! It's the only reason I run it on the slower side, as at 120 it shoots 5' material past the trough and then tries to kink it.

Yup... I cant wait to get it! We constantly do rolls of decals that get cut 1" x 3".... Talking hundreds of thousands. The auto scan + Auto cut/take up is going to be awesome - Theoretically you can put the roll in... hit 1 button and it'll cut everything for you and roll it all up nice and pretty!

It was like $2000 ontop of the already expensiver price to get it added... but IMO, it'll pay for itself in a few jobs. No more sending the cut job 4 times...sheet cutting, send it 4 more...sheet cut. etc.

 

[eahicks]

Which one bud ? The S2 ?? or T2

S2 160 T series

 

[ikarasu]

Why not just set the plotter up to cross cut between each set of reg marks?
Or does it not do that? I've always unchecked crosscut due to the luck of loosing reg marks, but I'd imagine with a 2.5" spacing between reg marks, you could crosscut with 0 advance?

I've never tried that option. I usually set the graphtec up once... Max roller width, then even if I'm loading 30" or 48" material the plotter thinks it's 54... Easier to read marks right on the edge that way. Then when you cross cut it'll cut in the mid of 54.... Which causes it to jam when your actually cutting a 30" roll. It's a bad habit... But it speeds up production.


Plus I print my next set of marks with only.5" spacing. I imagine it'll cut too close and no be able to read the next set.


We do a lot of labels for a specific company. They order them in batches of 500.... So it could be 5000, or 50,000. So we set up about 1000 up which is 5-8 ft of material using cutting master. Then we print that xx times... Can print a whole roll of different sized decals / quantities that way, much easier than using onyx or flexi.

Not sure how the 9000 is with the bar code reading... Hopefully I can do it the same with with cm4 marks, not have to deal with onyx.

 

[BVG]

Why not just set the plotter up to cross cut between each set of reg marks?
Or does it not do that? I've always unchecked crosscut due to the luck of loosing reg marks, but I'd imagine with a 2.5" spacing between reg marks, you could crosscut with 0 advance?

You can have it cross cut after each sheet, then automatically read the next set of reg marks. We cut whole rolls of perf cut decals unattended this way.