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GRS FlexiSIGN Training Class - Taught by SAi's Irina Wiles

chrisphilipps

Merchant Member
FlexiSIGN Basic and Advanced
(June 19th 9:30 - 12:30 or June 20th 1:30 - 4:30)


This class is designed for beginner and experienced operators who wish to learn the basics & advanced techniques for design, printing, cutting, and enhancing their work flow using FlexiSIGN.


FlexiSIGN Color Management
(June 19th 1:30 - 4:30 or June 20th 9:30 - 12:30)


This class will help you get a deeper understanding of how color works in your printing environment. Learn how to correctly convert your files from RGB in various formats, from ai files to pdfs.



Each class is $99 or $150 when you combine the two, per attendant. Space is limited register today.

Register on our online store or by phone (888) 477-8465 Ext. 1
 

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Northern Design

Northern Design Graphics
Class pricing

You would think at $3500 for the pro version of the program the class should be free to help the customer advance with the company, flexi is overpriced and now this
 

player

New Member
Yes I have music software Calkwalk, and it does a ton of stuff and they offer their lesson videos live for free. Also I have watched an Inspire CNC lesson, and many other programs, Adobe etc. all offered for free. Not Flexi though.
 

chrisphilipps

Merchant Member
To start- I can certainly see how you might feel this way, if I had paid out $3,500.00 or more for software I might have the same view as has been expressed in your posts. However, once you look at some of the factors in the cost charged for this course I think you may have a different perspective.

To start with FlexiSign Pro is not just a piece of design software but it is a RIP as well. If you look at the costs for other rips such as Caldera and Onyx and Wasatch you will see they are in this same price range but they are only a Rip not a piece of design software as well.

The next thing the class we are offering is in our own facility not at in Hotel or something of this nature but if it was this would be an additional cost to have this course not to mention other marketing activates, such as mailing and promoting the class, direct mailing costs etc, plus the cost of the instructor etc. We are charging for this class, this is not an SAi event and it is open to anyone that owns the software not just people we have sold it to.

There was mention of training videos in one of the posts such as Adobe and Calkwalk. These are just videos not a one-on-one presentation, where there are many other costs to present this information.

So while I can see your reluctance to want to pay for training such as this, we have no choice in the matter. There are costs we need to cover just to be able to provide this service to the general sign public.

I appreciate your time in reading my reply and anything else you can add to make the training more beneficial or to make our service to the sign community better would be appreciated.
 

player

New Member
Why not just do a Skype seminar like the other software companies do? The ones I have attended from Adobe and Calkwalk are free, and live. Is there so much of an advantage to shlepping into your shop to see the same screen available as a live Skype seminar?
 

chrisphilipps

Merchant Member
Why not just do a Skype seminar like the other software companies do? The ones I have attended from Adobe and Calkwalk are free, and live. Is there so much of an advantage to shlepping into your shop to see the same screen available as a live Skype seminar?

Yes online classes are "cheaper" to do but they are not as good of a class. This is not a mass online training class. Most of those classes have large number of participants, a strict format of what is covered and when. Finally, and in my view most importantly, it makes it harder for people's questions to be answered. The training class we are offering is limited to 15 participants so you will have direct access to the teacher and will have more of a chance to ask your questions. The other advantage is that, at least with output related questions, when you come to our location we have a printer setup and you will see firsthand cause and effect with outputs, you don't get this with an online class.
 

AnthonyRalano

New Member
$99 is not much. I am typically fond of youtube tuts and asking questions in forums, but I will say that every time I am around a fellow Flexi user I pick up new things that I didn't know the software was capable of. Thank you for sharing.
 

Northern Design

Northern Design Graphics
mass online training class

Can you imagine what they would charge for that mass online traning class, they make to much money to understand the the little people speek
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
I'm actually surprised that there is balking at the price. In my world this would be a very very good deal. Just to put it in perspective:

There are two things that I think were missed in Chris' post that (to me) alone justify for them charging for this event:

this is not an SAi event

it is open to anyone that owns the software not just people we have sold it to.

Now in my world, our full version (or "Pro" version if you will) costs around $15k. $3,500 will either be $1k over a very good home version of the same software or $500 shy of the entry level commercial version of the same software. The company that makes the software does offer free webinars and/or at their facility (or hotel now since they are inbetween facility moves) training, but it is basic only and only open to those that have the most current version of their software. I didn't catch that stipulation with software version in Chris' post. Although being current would be the most beneficial, but when resellers see that people are using the older versions, they do still help them out as they are familiar with the older versions and what work around to do to accomplish the same thing.

However, if a reseller was doing exactly what Chris is doing and open to everyone and it covers a lot crammed in a 2 or 3 days, you are looking at anywhere between $500 to $700. If they come to your facility for one on one, you are looking at covering their lodging, food and a couple of grand on top of that.

I've been on both sides as a person that has gone to facilities to teach other shops and as a "student" at this events.
 
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