Suggestions Handicap Van Accessible Sign Placement?

[TXFB.INS]

How far in front of the parking bumper is the "ideal" placement for the Handicap parking sign pole ?
* Is there criteria stating what is too close or too far away from the parking bumper or the parking spot?

New Multi Tenant Business Center is having their inspection this Friday and they realized they have no handicap / van accessible signs installed.

There is minimal spacing between the parking bumper and the entrances to the units.
trying to avoid someone hitting a pole and it falling into the glass store front, also trying to avoid having to place the sign in the middle of the walk path.

already looked at
* ADAGG
* MUTCD
* TEXAS REGULATION

 

[Moze]

No criteria that I'm aware of, but with that lack of space, the sign posts are going to get hit.

That (those?) spot(s) in front of the store front should have a bollard with a sign post coming out of it....my two cents.

That will protect the sign/post from getting damaged and prevent someone from driving through the store.

If the customer doesn't like that, I would sell them a spring-mounted or break-away post.

 

[JBurton]

IDK, when it's this close to the building, we would mount to the wall. I think I'd be more worried about the firelane on the back side of the parking spaces, don't believe I've ever seen that, but I don't really pay attention.

 

[StarSign]

Wow

 

[A Signage]

In MA there are rules for this, regarding heights, location, sign layout, breakaway hardware, etc. Those parking curbs stops are supposed to be 3-4' in the space which would give you room to fit a sign behind it. You don't want someone pulling in until the tires hit the stop and have the vehicle basically in the sidewalk impeding pedestrian and handicapped access.
If the curb stops can't be corrected (which typically just have rebar spikes), then I agree Moze response above.

 

[A Signage]

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[bowtievega]

Man that layout sucks lol. You really need 4 ft from the curb to have any chance for the sign to survive. Lots of people backing trucks in to spots nowadays but probably not as big of an issue with handicap spots but you never know. I would install that sign on the glass. Cut a piece of black high performance vinyl the same size as the sign, apply it to the window then tape and silicone the sign to the vinyl. Nice and clean from inside looking out. Doesn't look like you will have enough room for pedestrian traffic if there is a pole in front of that curb.

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

That don't look right at all