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Help- How to Light this sign?

Discussion in 'Electric Signs & Channel Letters' started by miltondavis, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. miltondavis

    miltondavis Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    san rafael, ca
    My client wants estimate/suggestion on how to light this sign with an external light source (not backlit) without the use of traditional flood lights that are installed in ground to shine upward, rather they want to install a light in the upper portion of the wood kiosk that you ideally tucked underneath roof part and light the sign- the kiosk is 4 sides. Does any one have suggestions or a source- I found this so far:
    but the customer wants to find a lower cost solution

    my main concern is providing a long "tube" type of lighting but I dont know if that will properly illuminate the whole sign? I worry that the wrong light would not be as effective as a flood light?

    Any help of suggestion is appreciated, thx:biggrin:

  2. Shovelhead

    Shovelhead Major Contributor

    Dec 5, 2003
    "I'm not an electrician".
  3. CheapVehicleWrap

    CheapVehicleWrap Very Active Member

    Dec 2, 2008
    how about floods shining down?
  4. PGSigns

    PGSigns Active Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    I would do it with LED's. I would use something like these http://www.sloanled.com/ChanneLED5.html and make a mounting strip from wood to get them angled towards the sign. Now you just need to figure out how to get power to the sign.
  5. Craig Sjoquist

    Craig Sjoquist Major Contributor

    Jun 18, 2004
    LEDs would be the way to go, cost is coming down and selection is improving a great deal, outdoor lighting is not cheap no matter how you do it, sealing from the weather is not just a gasket and cover. explain this to your customer.

    Good looking, quality, safety is not cheap and cheap is not good looking, quality or safe
  6. daveb

    daveb General Know-it-all

    Feb 11, 2010
    Quincy, IL
    I'm with Shovelhead

    If it were interior illuminated channel letters or a plex faced cabinet I could help, considering the extreme angle you're limited to here I'm afraid LED's wouldn't push the light down that far. Surely you have a electrical or lighting wholesaler in town who could advise you on the right fixture to use (and I didn't mean to call you Shirley). If you want a good sign go to a professional sign co., if you want good lighting... go to a professional, you retail the fixture and make labor. It's better than putting up something that doesn't work and looking like an idiot.:thumb:
  7. UFB Fabrication

    UFB Fabrication Member

    Jan 26, 2010
    I dont think any of the sign supply LED's would work. It would look spotty and only light less than a foot. Go to a lighting supply co that does parking lot and building lighting. They should be able to get the right fixture that is designed for that. If you normally do not do electric signs check with local code folks about permits as well. You may have to get a licensed electrical contractor to do it. In our area you will get a fine if you dont have license and permit(s)
  8. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    Sep 24, 2004
  9. petrosgraphics

    petrosgraphics Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    cape cod, ma
    not sure what you have for space in the roof area, talk with an electrician, they make all sorts of self enclosed high output / weather tight fixtures... all sorts of lengths avail.
    just not sure on the customers budget...... if there is nothing out there now for electrical
    permits will have to be obtained and a lic. electrician called in to do the job...
  10. miltondavis

    miltondavis Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    san rafael, ca
    Thanks all for the helpful input, I plan on updating all the vinyl graphics and just wanted to offer a suggestion to the clients regular electrician for lighting possibilities. There's not much room in the roof part for an upside down flood. I think some good-ole flood lighting from the ground mount is still the best type of illumination for this particular application. Either way doing a good job wont be cheap!The LEDS are a great idea but fear the bottom of the sign wouldnt get enough light.
  11. Sign Prophet

    Sign Prophet Member

    Jan 5, 2007
    An LED wall washer may fit in that overhang. I have seen a few smaller units, but cant remember where. I will look around if I get a chance and post more info if I find it.
  12. Gino

    Gino Premium Subscriber

    Jun 7, 2006
    Better make sure the landlord is Okay with this and that codes will allow it. No sense spinning your wheels if you're heading down a one-way road.

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